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is their such thing as truth ?

draon9

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I doubt that the scientific method can solve the solution of truth it can solve pieces but there will be evn more questions that we should ask ourselves
 

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Truth, like perfection, is an asymptote we can hope to approach.
 

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There is truth with a small t and Truth with a capital T.

Capital T Truth is revealed and is certain, while small t truth must be discovered and is provisional.

Capital T Truth is revealed to us in a trance, often a religious trance, while small t truth is discovered while we are wide awake.

Capital T Truth is self validating, while small t truth is validated by evidence and reason.

Capital T Truth has no place for self criticism, while small t truth advances by scepticism and self critique.

It is possible to wake up from the trance of capital T Truth, and wonder where we have been, while we remain alert and awake with small t truth.

And capital T Truth is based on authority and revelation, while small t truth is based on evidence and reason.

So are you a capital T Truther or a small t truther?
 
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I say all of this as someone who was essentially raised without religion:

American society is based on freedom of religion and freedom of convictions. Any movement that does not acknowledge this is doomed to failure.

The attempt to promote atheism in the U.S was disasterous because it gave no thought to the fact that progressive values like equality emerged out of a religious tradition. It was analogous to Tim Leary, going around selling consciousness expansion without regards to the grim meathook realities that lied in wait for the people who took him seriously.

There was no interest in historical realities, and it sneered at the study of religion as an intellectual topic, despite the obvious contemporary relevance of such matters. If the movement had been about what it claimed to be about, it would have supported it as a topic worth researching, rather than cataloging it away in some metaphorical warehouse.

So, unforseen events happened, and people had no moral framework for dealing with them, and most of the millitant atheists ended up looking to spiritual figures for guidance. It was unsustainable, just as I predicted it would be.

This isn't France.
 

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The meaning of the Greek word for truth (Alethea) is disclosure.

Disclosure is intimately tied up with human existence.
 

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If there isn't, it's least a useful construct. Without benchmarks -- especially agreed-upon benchmarks -- we'd all be pretty lost.
 

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If "there is no truth" is true, then there is truth.

The question is not "is there truth?", the question is "what is truth?".

Postmodernism is philosophical child's play masquerading as skeptical brilliance.
 

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Reality certainly exists. But there's a difference between reality and truth. Truth is more like our understanding of reality.
 

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Alright guys, I've tried to keep my peace but...

can we please get the title of this thread edited to reflect the proper usage of "there", please?

I can forgive the space before the question mark. I can even forgive the "I" which isn't capitalized, but please, please, PLEASE fix this.
 

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Reality certainly exists. But there's a difference between reality and truth. Truth is more like our understanding of reality.

Since the meaning of truth is unhiddenness based on disclosure, and since only man discloses, truth, must therefore be a characteristic of Being, and thus, does not exist independent of it.

So truth exists only as long as there is Being. (There can be no truth without man's existence).

Reality is merely a mode of man's interpretation of the world, and thus, like truth, is dependent on man's existence.

Therefore, reality and truth are dependent on man's existence.
 

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Alright guys, I've tried to keep my peace but...

can we please get the title of this thread edited to reflect the proper usage of "there", please?

I can forgive the space before the question mark. I can even forgive the "I" which isn't capitalized, but please, please, PLEASE fix this.
I'm going to start putting homophones in all of my thread titles.
 

Cellmold

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Alright guys, I've tried to keep my peace but...

can we please get the title of this thread edited to reflect the proper usage of "there", please?

I can forgive the space before the question mark. I can even forgive the "I" which isn't capitalized, but please, please, PLEASE fix this.

Don't forget the 'a' missing between 'such' & 'thing'. :rules:
 

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I impulsively like to invert subject titles when I read them. For instance, "Is there a such thing as truth?" becomes, "Are things true?" . I'm not sure which is more daring to presuppose as an axiom, truth or things.
 

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I impulsively like to invert subject titles when I read them. For instance, "Is there a such thing as truth?" becomes, "Are things true?" . I'm not sure which is more daring to presuppose as an axiom, truth or things.

Define "things" first.
 

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So physical things?

No, not at all. Like entities, having existence. Like Apples, Pi, and Truth.

(don't take this seriously, I'm exiting the thread since I'm not currently interested in philosophy)
 
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