Tertiary Si: Find relief with introverted Sensing (INTP/INFP)
They often enjoy activities like revisiting places they've been, ideas they've explored, and the history of their family, their organization, or even their culture. They collect detailed information about what interests them and may devote time to researching the past to build on what others have already done. They may be drawn to collect memorabilia or keep extensive records of activities and interests. They recognize familiar subtle sensory elements such as tastes, aromas, and spellings. In the physical world, they take comfort in familiarity. They may avoid or resist new experiences preferring to have new experiences match the old ones that were enjoyable.
When Younger, they tend not to remember details or put much stock in expected results based on past experience. As they grow, they find they have acquired a rich storehouse of memories, and they learn to recall with accurate detail how something was before and will likely review the past to see what lessons can be learned from it. They often go from avoiding participation in traditions and holidays to genuinely enjoying these.
Engaging in introverted Sensing can be unsettling and disruptive at times. They can give too much detail or become too focused on reviewing the past and what's established as valid, even if it is for lessons learned. Or they may end up collecting endless quantities of miscellaneous items that give them comfort in their familiarity but clutter their physical lives.
I'm really bored, so I thought I'd post this from the same book I used to post on the ENFP thread
Hope that's a good starting point!
I want to know why there are so many INFPs who list their type as XNFP, or INXP...what are you so afraid of?
Sorry to hijack...proceed.
Sure, I'll give it a try.Sounds very familiar. Can you expand on how you put a routine together and what the motivations behind it are, how it practically takes effect?
Sure, I'll give it a try.
As far as how I put a routine together, I take my digestion cycle as the starting point. Every day I can expect to get hungry at about the same time, by necessity, and so I weave things around that one uncontrollable rhythm in such a way as to make them fit comfortably. What's comfortable, and why it should be so, is difficult to articulate. It probably comes down to the ever ineffable Fi, which gets structured with a touch of Te and cemented by some Si. Si and Te then feed right back into Fi by making it all the more comfortable with the way things are proceeding.
The motivations for this daily routine result from its practical effect. Its practical effect is that it gives my life a sense of structure, which leads to productivity because I know what to do, which in turn brings a small measure of self-esteem.
That's the positive side of Si. On the negative end of things, Si never ceases to regurgitate the worst memories. Every little mistake, every little embarrassment--for no good reason and with no provocation whatsoever, Si must remind me of them. Pleasant memories? I don't know any pleasant memories. I've had plenty of happy experiences, to be sure, but when I even bother to think of them, they either bore me, embarrass me, or depress me.
Ok, I'm going to derail my own thread and ask you about inferior Te..if you don't mind. Steph, if you feel up to it, feel free to quote that book of yours as well on this topic
...(sorry guys, I'm on a mission )
Ne doesn't like being shut off for irrelevant things like food and sleep.
I have this trouble too. I'm on such a constant alert, in fact, that I almost never cease to refresh web pages every five or so minutes. It's as if I can't shut my eyes to any one thing that's important to me. If I do, I'll miss something, I don't know what. As a result, I've learned to multitask. If I were to take the alternative and focus on one thing, I would get distracted by the possibility of missing something, and become less productive.Thank you for the explanation. I recognize this, but I tend to rebel against it (I hate going to sleep which then inevitably changes my biorythm constantly making those moments not so fixed). Ne doesn't like being shut off for irrelevant things like food and sleep.
I have a lot of trouble with Te. I find it easy enough to write up lists and whatnot, but when it comes time to make use of those, I run up against a wall. In order to follow a procedure, I need the motivation to do so, and that motivation isn't always easy to come by. Motivation has a will of its own. I can go days without the desire to do anything, and then inspiration will strike without warning. But when it does so, it only directs itself toward a small subset of the tasks I want to accomplish. So I may have the most efficient list you can imagine, and have no power to make use of it, simply because I don't and can't feel like it. It's like being stranded in a wilderness with a car that won't start. You could get out in no time at all, only the tank is empty.Amargith said:Ok, I'm going to derail my own thread and ask you about inferior Te..
i do ... we are coming at the same question from the opposite ends of it.
Cryptic, aren't we?
Indeed not!
I have this trouble too. I'm on such a constant alert, in fact, that I almost never cease to refresh web pages every five or so minutes. It's as if I can't shut my eyes to any one thing that's important to me. If I do, I'll miss something, I don't know what. As a result, I've learned to multitask. If I were to take the alternative and focus on one thing, I would get distracted by the possibility of missing something, and become less productive.
I have a lot of trouble with Te. I find it easy enough to write up lists and whatnot, but when it comes time to make use of those, I run up against a wall. In order to follow a procedure, I need the motivation to do so, and that motivation isn't always easy to come by. Motivation has a will of its own. I can go days without the desire to do anything, and then inspiration will strike without warning. But when it does so, it only directs itself toward a small subset of the tasks I want to accomplish. So I may have the most efficient list you can imagine, and have no power to make use of it, simply because I don't and can't feel like it. It's like being stranded in a wilderness with a car that won't start. You could get out in no time at all, only the tank is empty.
Inferior Te: Aspire to extraverted Thinking (INFP/ISFP)
While they may be rather disorganized and struggle with structure and putting their lives in order, they want to be efficient and systematic. The often find adhering to schedules can be very taxing, but they know the importance of them. When they notice something is not functioning right, they may scold themselves for not being organized enough. Over time, using methods to better control their environment and lives becomes more important to them and they tend to pay more attention to sequencing actions and organizing time for optimal efficiency, actually enjoying organizing their space and time.
When they're younger, thinking through multiplicity of real-life logical consequences that follow from holding to particular beliefs may not occur to them. As they grow, they begin to find it easier to think through a wide range of long-term consequences and prepare for them in advance in an objective manner.
They may conform their thinking to what is observed as a measurable fact and lay out reasonable explanations for decisions and conclusions made, although they may do so in an argumentative fashion that is counter to their usual easy-going manner. Later in life, they may be involved in building and maintaining a far-reaching organization.
They can become out of control with this process and become rigidly organized and dogmatic, too wedded to their logic and rationales to engage in true dialog. Then they become insensitive to others' responses and keep pushing for their stance.
I'm INTP, but isn't this the function that you turn to when you're stressed and start procrastinating/organizing everything?