Southern Kross
Away with the fairies
- Joined
- Dec 22, 2008
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- 2,910
- MBTI Type
- INFP
- Enneagram
- 4w5
- Instinctual Variant
- so/sp
(Purely for the sake of discussion)
I kinda feel similar to [MENTION=5999]PeaceBaby[/MENTION] on this (although I want to take it a slightly different direction). I am not mad or irritated, but I do find it interesting how much this story is coloured by the INFJ lens. I can see what information is significant and useful to a INFJ reading. The thing is, I have none of the information that would actually help me interpret the situation, and it makes me realise how different our requirements are. I think anything the INFPs have said here can only be using generalisations (eg. about idealising people or feeling shut out of people's lives etc) and speculating on how that could have been a factor.
In truth there is nothing in that story that explains why the INFP has acted as she has; it's just treated as a bunch of inexplicable actions, with imperceptible reasoning (which it is, in objective terms). OTOH the INFJs actions are treated as rather natural and self-explanatory (which it is, in objective terms). However, both these elements are precisely where I want to dig deeper. There will be much, much more to the whole thing. The INFP (whether right or wrong) will have a rational, cause-and-effect style explanation for how she behaved. Also, the INFJ (whether right or wrong) will have been communicating other implied feelings/thoughts/attitudes/impressions in her behaviour, that are not obvious and self-evident.
For example, one of the few hints of meaningful information is: 'Meanwhile, INFP is bothered by INFJ's "busy-ness" ' . That's the sort of sign I look for that helps me to interpret it. I actually was thinking this may be a problem before I got to that part.
What I'm trying to get across is how 'external' the description is. I can appreciate all those surface factors and can see that the INFJ's point of view. That stuff makes sense and I don't dismiss any of that. But by making it so 'external', it basically leaves the INFP at a disadvantage because her behaviour won't make sense by that criteria.
I don't mean to drive the discussion off topic or to sound like I'm complaining. It's just a observation I wanted to make.
I kinda feel similar to [MENTION=5999]PeaceBaby[/MENTION] on this (although I want to take it a slightly different direction). I am not mad or irritated, but I do find it interesting how much this story is coloured by the INFJ lens. I can see what information is significant and useful to a INFJ reading. The thing is, I have none of the information that would actually help me interpret the situation, and it makes me realise how different our requirements are. I think anything the INFPs have said here can only be using generalisations (eg. about idealising people or feeling shut out of people's lives etc) and speculating on how that could have been a factor.
In truth there is nothing in that story that explains why the INFP has acted as she has; it's just treated as a bunch of inexplicable actions, with imperceptible reasoning (which it is, in objective terms). OTOH the INFJs actions are treated as rather natural and self-explanatory (which it is, in objective terms). However, both these elements are precisely where I want to dig deeper. There will be much, much more to the whole thing. The INFP (whether right or wrong) will have a rational, cause-and-effect style explanation for how she behaved. Also, the INFJ (whether right or wrong) will have been communicating other implied feelings/thoughts/attitudes/impressions in her behaviour, that are not obvious and self-evident.
For example, one of the few hints of meaningful information is: 'Meanwhile, INFP is bothered by INFJ's "busy-ness" ' . That's the sort of sign I look for that helps me to interpret it. I actually was thinking this may be a problem before I got to that part.
What I'm trying to get across is how 'external' the description is. I can appreciate all those surface factors and can see that the INFJ's point of view. That stuff makes sense and I don't dismiss any of that. But by making it so 'external', it basically leaves the INFP at a disadvantage because her behaviour won't make sense by that criteria.
I don't mean to drive the discussion off topic or to sound like I'm complaining. It's just a observation I wanted to make.