Arctic Hysteria
an abyss of Nothingness
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[MENTION=20691]atlascatcher[/MENTION], I'm a big fan of Ólafur Arnalds.
@<a href="http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/members/20691.html" target="_blank">atlascatcher</a>, I'm a big fan of Ólafur Arnalds.
[MENTION=20691]atlascatcher[/MENTION], I'm a big fan of Ólafur Arnalds.
I have never crossed a cold INFJThey can seem unreachable, fragile... but their insight on their deep feelings is a real strength.
It seems that INTJ and INFJ have the same demeanour when talking of a subject they like. However, their look is so very different. I know some INFJ artists much more than INTJ (most of them enjoy research and are not fond of art). Once INFJ can master their feelings, they are often great. I have a very good example around me...
yeah, i didn't phrase it well. what i mean is that INTJs can come across cold and hard but clearly soft and fragile underneath, and INFJs are more complicated just from what you see right in front of you: they're guarded yet warm, super accomodating yet discerning. i don't see that INFJness in trent. he is such an INTJ
Not sure how I feel about typing someone from their lyrics, but I agree about INTJ. Not because of "pure" Fi, but because of clearly non-dominant Fi and stronger Te, in his interviews. He vibes like every INTJ I know, as well, and when he acts like an asshole (i.e. frequently), he acts like an asshole in a totally non-INFJ way. For example: when I saw him live, the first time he spoke to the audience was right before the last song of the show, asking if we had requests. Then he waited a minute or two for someone to request the song HE wanted to play -- ignoring everyone else's requests -- and made some self-satisfied comment in the affirmative, and then started playing.trent reznor reminds me of every INTJ i've ever known. the pain is so pure, so fi. i was just listening to his song where it goes 'there is no you, there is only me.' it reminded me of how every Fi user kinda contains their own universe inside of them, and it's kind of aligned with buddhist philosophy of the self being the only thing that exists and also how it doesn't exist at all.
he has a VERY INTJ demeanor... INFJs just have such a different feeling about them. he is too hard and fragile at the same time. INFJs don't come off cold in quite the same way.
Not sure how I feel about typing someone from their lyrics, but I agree about INTJ. Not because of "pure" Fi, but because of clearly non-dominant Fi and stronger Te, in his interviews. He vibes like every INTJ I know, as well, and when he acts like an asshole (i.e. frequently), he acts like an asshole in a totally non-INFJ way. For example: when I saw him live, the first time he spoke to the audience was right before the last song of the show, asking if we had requests. Then he waited a minute or two for someone to request the song HE wanted to play -- ignoring everyone else's requests -- and made some self-satisfied comment in the affirmative, and then started playing.
Look at his eyes. Listen to the words he uses. To me he is not an INTJ. But Yes...I understand very well what you mean now
INTJ don't look super accommodating to what I know from them...
I'm really confused by some of these typings. IMO Layne is an ISFP and Trent an obvious INTJ. You can spot the Ni-Fi in his lyrics from a mile away.
Basically, he says that INFJ musicians:
- Go for profound/deep expression in their music; the meaning and message
- Tend to be very creative
- Aren't very graceful in the physical world; won't be great dancers or dynamic performers
- Are hyperaware of the feelings of others around them and they will try to affect those feelings
Famous ones he says are INFJs are:
RZA (Wu-Tang Clan)
Tori Amos
Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails)
Layne Staley (Alice In Chains)
Stevie Nicks (Fleetwood Mac)
Mindy Gledhill
Tegan Rain Quin (Tegan and Sara)
Pete Townshend (The Who)
Nikki Sixx (Motley Crue)
Yanni
Jessie Baylin
Marilyn Manson
George Harrison (The Beatles)
Lisa Loeb
Bill Ward (Black Sabbath)
Peter Gabriel
Leonard Cohen
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)
Roland Orzabal (Tears for Fears)
Ali Handal
Kara Shaw
Annie Clark (St. Vincent)
Do you think these things are accurate?
[MENTION=7111]fidelia[/MENTION] [MENTION=14857]fia[/MENTION]
Others disagreed with several of those typings tooI'm really confused by some of these typings. IMO Layne is an ISFP and Trent an obvious INTJ. You can spot the Ni-Fi in his lyrics from a mile away.
I don't know Layne as a musician, but I completely agree about Reznor. I read and deduced about his creative process that he is very INTJ as well. From what I remember he has hundreds of files and works mostly on the computer (yes I realize that isn't exactly type related) but there is something very technical and industrious about his process. Also, I'm very deep in the musician realm, so have worked and known a wide range, and even people in electronic music can be way more sensory experience based. Se inferior artists can still have a potency about their sensory expression, but it is different than high Se. It can sometimes be an overcompensation, opposites sort of thing to their actual experience. I think some Ni-dom Se-inferiors express extreme sensory things artistically, but it is actually an abstraction for them and not the same as actual sensory immersion if that makes sense.I'm really confused by some of these typings. IMO Layne is an ISFP and Trent an obvious INTJ. You can spot the Ni-Fi in his lyrics from a mile away.