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Tom Petty is a perfect example of an INFP musician - very sensitive, personal, gifted songwriter.
Let's not lose our heads here.
Tom Petty is a perfect example of an INFP musician - very sensitive, personal, gifted songwriter.
You silly.Let's not lose our heads here.
You silly.Actually, I don't connect that personally with his music and actually dislike some of his songs, but there is depth and meaning there, and so I would still call his ability giftedness.
Bob Dylan - I've thought he is an INFP. What do you think?I'm just indifferent to him. His claim to fame is being friends with George Harrison and Bob Dylan.
I wouldn't consider him gifted, possibly the epitome of mediocre song writer.
Bob Dylan - I've thought he is an INFP. What do you think?
IMO Bob Dylan is an ISFP with strong Ni.
These are very accurate and I also base it on their lyrics. Trent Rezner is the epitome of INFJ because of his global abstract perspective combined with describing disconnection from self (which is why he is not a Fi dom)
The rest I don't know well enough, except someone please tell me Yanni isn't INFJ. He feels so vapid to me like the musical version of Fabio.
I would like to see INFJ musicians address the original question with a video response. What do you think, Highlander?
These lyrics are a good example of Ni-Fe expressing an existential isolation, a longing to connect that is impossible when both Self and Other become an abstraction of reality. I think both Fi and Ni can create abstraction of others, but the abstraction of Self is very much in the domain of Ni-Fe.NIN said:"Only"
I'm becoming less defined as days go by
Fading away
And well you might say
I'm losing focus
Kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself
Sometimes I think I can see right through myself [x2]
Sometimes I can see right through myself
Less concerned about fitting into the world
Your world that is
Cause it doesn't really matter anymore
(no it doesn't really matter anymore)
No it doesn't really matter anymore
None of this really matters anymore
Yes I am alone but then again I always was
As far back as I can tell
I think maybe it's because
Because you were never really real to begin with
I just made you up to hurt myself...
Going by his writing and the interviews I've watched, he has strong intuition but it seems less focused on "what if" and exploration of multiple possibilities, and more focused on "what is", like he has a unified idea of an underlying reality in his mind that he finds difficult to articulate directly. IMO his intuition has an Ni rigidness and certainty to it instead of an Ne uncertain and hypothetical quality. I even thought INFJ at first until I realized he has far more Fi than Fe.Can you explain what you mean and how it relates to Dylan?
I suspect PJ Harvey is ENFJ, though I think she serves as a good example of the (supposed) FJ/FP difference. When she talks about the process of creating the music, it’s all about how to most effectively create an effect. It’s like her goal is to paint an accurate portrait of some aspect of the human experience–it isn’t about expressing her own experience, it’s about capturing a universal experience- and focusing on the effect that portrait creates. She mentions (interview under spoiler) doing a lot of research- reading blogs, watching documentaries and interviews of people living in war zones- to be able to convey the most universal/objective perspective (of some subjective condition) as possible. She's not trying to express something about 'herself'- she even mentions she doesn't want to have songs that sound "too self-important"- she's trying to express something about 'us'.
[The reason I say ENFJ over INFJ is because it seems to me like she’s got a tighter grip on the reigns of the beast musicians try to capture, if that makes any sense. I think that INFJs sit back and watch- the beast is bigger than them, and they sorta hide in the shadows drawing sketches of it and/or laying out traps to catch it, presenting all sorts of illustrations of ‘it’ without feeling too involved (because feeling too involved is too chaotic a feeling, we feel most grounded when it feels like we’re simply observing what’s there). But ENFJs can jump in there, slap a saddle on it and ride it like a bronco/tell it where to go. I think. And I say all this as someone who isn't a musician.]
[MENTION=22109]silvery sleeves[/MENTION], which INFx do you think Jeff Mangum is?
Trent Reznor = INFP
Some other INFJ musicians include Morrissey, Billy Corgan and Thom Yorke.
Jack White
Maybe PJ Harvey. Either INFJ or ISFP.
IMO Bob Dylan is an ISFP with strong Ni.
Trent Reznor NIN
These lyrics are a good example of Ni-Fe expressing an existential isolation, a longing to connect that is impossible when both Self and Other become an abstraction of reality. I think both Fi and Ni can create abstraction of others, but the abstraction of Self is very much in the domain of Ni-Fe.
he has a VERY INTJ demeanor... INFJs just have such a different feeling about them. he is too hard and fragile at the same time. INFJs don't come off cold in quite the same way.