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The Beast of Gévaudan; between 1764 and 1767.
The attacks, which covered an area spanning 90 by 80 kilometres (56 by 50 mi), were said to have been committed by one or more beasts of a tawny/russet colour with dark streaks/stripes and a dark stripe down its back, a tail "longer than a wolf's" ending in a tuft according to contemporary eyewitnesses. It was said to attack with formidable teeth and claws, and appeared to be the size of a calf or cow and seemed to fly or bound across fields towards its victims. These descriptions from the period could identify the beast as a young lion, a striped hyena, a large wolf, a large dog, or a wolfdog, though its identity is still the subject of debate.
 

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Oddity (2024) -- extremely low budget, only 4-5 characters, and only one main location (and 2-3 minor locations), but this is how to make a really low-budget horror film that doesn't look low-budget at all.

It's not overly complicated, and you can guess where the storyline is going, but it moves at its own pace, has decent jump scares at unexpected times, and is well-done at this cost. This kind of thing might be the future of some horror, at least -- basically no cost that looks good and is solid, so any profits are magnified.
 
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Oddity (2024) -- extremely low budget, only 4-5 characters, and only one main location (and 2-3 minor locations), but this is how to make a really low-budget horror film that doesn't look low-budget at all.

It's not overly complicated, and you can guess where the storyline is going, but it moves at its own pace, has decent jump scares at unexpected times, and is well-done at this cost. This kind of thing might be the future of some horror, at least -- basically no cost that looks good and is solid, so any profits are magnified.
I haven't seen it, but this sounds better than a million found-footage Blair Witch ripoffs. I think I've talked before on here about how much I hate Paranormal Activity.
 
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I haven't seen it, but this sounds better than a million found-footage Blair Witch ripoff. I think I've talked before on here about how much I hate Paranormal Activity.
Yeah, this is not found footage, it's a bona fide film that is polished/finished. The staging is such that you could actually do it as a play (with limited locations and cast and nothing really shot in a large public area that would demand extras.)
 

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I've noticed when it comes to low budget films where is seems like directors and actors just trying to get their feet wet, horror is the go to genre. There seems to be thousands of low budget slasher/monster/zombie movies. Literally 10x (maybe 100x) as many of them as any other low budget film genre.

The next most popular is probably tough guy defends innocent family from gang of thugs themes.

Just goes to show, lack of imagination/creativity in Hollywood starts from the ground up. Even the beginners recycle the same ideas over and over.

A few of them turn out pretty good though. I quite enjoyed the Blair Witch project when I first saw it.
 
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I've noticed when it comes to low budget films where is seems like directors and actors just trying to get their feet wet, horror is the go to genre. There seems to be thousands of low budget slasher/monster/zombie movies. Literally 10x (maybe 100x) as many of them as any other low budget film genre.

The next most popular is probably tough guy defends innocent family from gang of thugs themes.

Just goes to show, lack of imagination/creativity in Hollywood starts from the ground up. Even the beginners recycle the same ideas over and over.

A few of them turn out pretty good though. I quite enjoyed the Blair Witch project when I first saw it.
Well, Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson went on to make some decent non-horror films that were massive hits. I wonder why they followed the same pattern at the same time.

I was disappointed by the Blair Witch project. I wanted to find out more about the witch, and expected more of a payoff. I didn't hate it, though. I think it's better than the movies that ripped off of it. Being lost in the woods is more anxiety-inducing than spending the night in a suburban McMansion.

Boy, they really made that movie at a time when a single trailer on the internet could drive everyone insane, didn't they?

People also don't realize that Heather actually survived and went on to have Charlie Kelly's kid before becoming a marijuana grower.
 

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Well, Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson went on to make some decent non-horror films that were massive hits. I wonder why they followed the same pattern at the same time.

I was disappointed by the Blair Witch project. I wanted to find out more about the witch, and expected more of a payoff. I didn't hate it, though. I think it's better than the movies that ripped off of it. Being lost in the woods is more anxiety-inducing than spending the night in a suburban McMansion.

Boy, they really made that movie at a time when a single trailer on the internet could drive everyone insane, didn't they?

People also don't realize that Heather actually survived and went on to have Charlie Kelly's kid before becoming a marijuana grower.
I was kinda bummed they demolished the house. They shot the state park / forest stuff up more northwest in MD, I think, but the house was actually down here within the outskirts of Baltimore area. I actually found the location from small forum surfing but i think by that point they had torn it down because kids kept breaking into it and it was becoming a liability. So I even found a map on where to park on the backroad and what property to traverse, lol, but that's as far as I got...
 

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Watched Carnival of Souls tonight since I wanted a shorter film.

Some of it was a bit boring.
Some parts where kind of surreal in an awesome way (esp the last ten minutes). It almost made up for all the boring bits.
Some of it made me laugh.
Some of it really pissed me off -- mainly, that most of the men in this film are douchebags -- either lecherous, or domineering, or patronizing.
(I shouted at the TV when that pastor fired her and then tried to justify that he still "cared about her" and told her not to give up on church. Fuck off.)

But yeah, I see where that all went by the end. heheh.
I thought the drag race was kinda nuts, and the driver was smoking as she drove lol.

It's not my favorite horror flick from that era, I'm still more of a Les Diaboliques or Eyes Without a Face viewer, but it had some good moments.
 
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Watched Carnival of Souls tonight since I wanted a shorter film.

Some of it was a bit boring.
Some parts where kind of surreal in an awesome way (esp the last ten minutes). It almost made up for all the boring bits.
Some of it made me laugh.
Some of it really pissed me off -- mainly, that most of the men in this film are douchebags -- either lecherous, or domineering, or patronizing.
(I shouted at the TV when that pastor fired her and then tried to justify that he still "cared about her" and told her not to give up on church. Fuck off.)

But yeah, I see where that all went by the end. heheh.
I thought the drag race was kinda nuts, and the driver was smoking as she drove lol.

It's not my favorite horror flick from that era, I'm still more of a Les Diaboliques or Eyes Without a Face viewer, but it had some good moments.
I like it because it's very atmospheric. The time period and low budget make everything feel really alien and unsettling and distant. The movie feels very isolating, which is a quality that it shares with a lot of other horror movies I like, like The Lighthouse and Kubrick's The Shining. It feels a little like Night of the Living Dead and apparently it influenced George Romero.

I could see some of those criticisms, though. It's definitely slower paced and I remember a lot of creepy men in it.

The director started off making short films for educational and industrial purposes and wanted to try his hand at a feature film. Here's one of his shorts:


They actually showed this on MST3K.
 
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Day 21: The Howling III: The Marsupials

Summary: The survivors of two different kinds of werewolves converge in the Australian Bush.

This movie is a tricky one.

The biggest issue is that there's a rape/incest subplot that the movie takes too lightly. I don't even think I see any kind of comeuppance at the end; at one point it looked like they were building towards that.

Another thing I disliked: the atrocious, lifeless cover of Bad Moon Rising that made me wish I was watching An American Werewolf in London, a much better movie.

So the basic plot of this movie is the a young woman, Jerboa Jerboa who flees her little settlement Flow in the Australian Outback for Sidney, where she falls in love with Donny, an American in the film business. They do it at some point. She also transforms into some kind of creature because of flashing lights; people assume she has epilepsy and she is taken to the hospital, where she discovers she has a pouch and there are cute tiny little werewolves inside. They return to Flow for reasons. In a hilarious moment (similar to Nilbog in Troll 2), it is revealed that Flow is actually Wolf spelled backwards. These are not like the wolves we know, however, because these are marsupials. They are derived from an extinct Australian animal called a thylacine, also known as a Tasmanian wolf. It is later revealed that these creatues were hunted to extinction deliberately by the government because they were going to turn everyone into werewolves or something like that.

There is also a Russian ballerina who defects to Australia who is revealed to be a werewolf. The American and British/Australian (I can't keep track of the geopolitics of the Howling III, sorry) suspect something wolfish is going on. They send a scientist to investigate, but later decide that they should just genocide the werewolves.
There is also a subplot about a Russian ballerina who meets up with the marsupials, and reveals that she is a different kind of werewolf, i.e., a placental werewolf like the kind we all know and love. She falls in love with the scientist sent earlier who has become sympathetic to them. The ballerina also suggests at some point that werewolves may survive "in California" which I suppose is the sole nod to the first film.

Soldiers/cops/mercenaries/rednecks/whatever show up and try to kill all the werewolves and nearly succeed.

Jerboam Jerboam and Donny decide to return to civillization, despite the warnings of the scientist. They promise to be extra extra careful. By extra extra careful, they mean moving to Los Angeles, with her becoming a model and an actress, but they dyed her hair so nobody will ever know. (This movie doesn't make a lot of sense) She wins the non-trademarked equivalent of the Oscars, but oh no, there are too many flashing lights and she transforms into a werewolf. The government official (I guess he's supposed to be Australian, but he seems so British) is shown at his home giggling in delight where we see various werewolf artifacts, almost trophies, implying that this was part of his diabolical plan.

Like the Howling II, this movie is also pretty dumb and doesn't make a sense, but, without the unpleasant subplot I mentioned, it's a much more enjoyable experience. An advantage it has over it's predecssor is that the basic premise is very unique. I've never even seen a film mention a thylacine, let alone feature them. I don't think most people even know they existed. They aren't interested in delving into the deeper themes of "the beast in man" that all the top shelf werewolve movies do, but at least it's not actually about fucking vampires (Brotherhood of the Wolf doesn't count, it's a weird European movie and can do whatever it wants).

My overall take on this movie is that while there is definitely unpleasantness involved, but if you can get past that, it's kind of goofy and creative. The movie make no sense, but it's not lazy. It's setting out to do something unique which I always like. It also digs into my favorite 80s/90s trope, the strange but misunderstood being who needs to be protected from the government/megacorp that wants to destroy them. (These stories usually feature a benevolent inventor/scientist type who because of their rationality know better than than to fear what they don't understand.) I'm a sucker for that kind of story. Linking everything to a real extinct animal helped drive this point home.

Next: I'm embracing full-on goofiness in the hopes of solving a childhood riddle. Plus: Kramer! Let's hope this movie is actually funny...
 
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Day 22: Transylvania 6-5000

Summary: Two reporters are sent to Transylvania to investigate monsters.

Wow, this was a rough one. This was intended to be an Airplane!-like take on classic horror films. Unfortunately, this movie doesn't live up to its potential, which is a shame, because I was rooting for it. They also seem to be ripping off of Young Frankenstein; there's a Frankenstein-like doctor whose performance seems to be copying Gene Wilder's. It's probably not a good sign when the title was a dated reference even when the movie came out. Pennsylvania 6-5000 is a big band standard, and the title is also an extremely dated reference to the way telephone numbers were formatted. Who would make that the title of a movie, include references to it, and assume that everyone would think that would be a humorous reference?

Much of the film's humor consists of characters in outrageous Eastern European accents (especially Jeffrey Jones) laughing at things Americans do. I guess because they thought that they were laughing, that we would be laughing, too, especially if they are foreign.

The film isn't entirely unfunny. Carol Kane and Michael Richards have many good moments. Jeff Goldblum has some as well.

The reason I picked this film was because I had stumbled upon part of this movie on Comedy Central back in the mid-90s. I saw a clap of a man wearing strange novelty sunglasses who appeared to be trapped behind a door or a wall, with a strange accent. Another man was yelling at him demanding to speak to Radu. It was very surreal taken out of context. I had wondered for a while what this film could possibly be. Eventually, it passed out of all memory, until earlier this month when I clicked on a random trailer for a Jeff Goldblum movie I've never heard of. I was treated with a familiar site... the bizarre visage of a man in those instantly recognizable stupid glasses.

I watched this movie and I made another shocking discovery. There is a twist. This is indeed the right film, but that man... that man.. is none other than:



This was a disappointing watch, but it did solve an ancient mystery.

This one is above The Howling II (which might be the bottom of the pack.... see what I did there?) because the movie is not without moments in the film that are actually funny.
 
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Should I do the Island of Dr. Moreau with Charles Laughton or Marlon Brando?

I've never seen the Marlon Brando version, but so many people made jokes about it from Austin Powers to South Park.
 

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Should I do the Island of Dr. Moreau with Charles Laughton or Marlon Brando?

I've never seen the Marlon Brando version, but so many people made jokes about it from Austin Powers to South Park.
Both. You have to see the Charles Laughton version and you OWE it to yourself to see the Marlon Brando one.

You'll finally understand what I mean when I say I want to go to dog heaven.
 
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I heard this today.

The beginning of this song reminded me of fucking Halloween III: Season of the Witch.
 

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Possum (2018) on Prime streaming. Psychological horror? Sean Harris is a semi-unreliable narrator in this dream-feverish film that is really big on ambiance and creep moments. Again, low-budget horror that is well-produced and acted. Sean Harris carries this film on his shoulder, his facial expressions are exquisite throughout the film. It must have been disturbing being locked in this mindset during filming. I also LOL'ed -- it's been about 30 years, yet I almost immediate recognized Alun Armstrong (the uncle) as Mornay (one of the three Scottish lords, who betray Rob) from Braveheart.

It can sometimes feel a bit slow, although then again it's only 85 minutes long or so. It's really about trying to understand what messed up Phillip (Harris) so badly and which perceptions of his are accurate versus distorted, and what role the uncle has played in all this.

I agree with criticism that the ending needed to be more emotion/evocation based, not relying on listening to dialogue, as the entire film is imagery and mood. It wasn't as satisfying as it could have been? But geez, there is just some crazy creep factor here visually, including the kid's book/diary which seems even worse than the one from The Babadook.

The puppet model reminds me a lot of imagery from the flesh faire in A.I.

Case in point regarding this film (image)
 
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Did you watch it yet?
Tonight, I want to watch Possum, what @Totenkindly mentioned recently. I haven't watched enough pure horror films really.

I will watch it, but you must do something for me.

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You must watch Donnie Darko. Any time you want, really. I'm a laid-back mafia don.

I saw Gigli in theaters and it was a profound revelation. Jennifer Lopez's character inspired me to create a more laid-back company culture within my criminal organization. I wish she was still with Ben; it kind of gave me hope for all of us, you know? A steady and sure beacon of light in these troubled times....
 
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Oh, I don't get Prime Streaming. :(

I guess I'm going to learn what inspired the National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes tonight, instead.
 
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