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Accelerationism and Longtermism

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This has always been a white supremacist ideology. Collapse the government and society with the endgame being a white ethnostate utopia.


Kind of makes sense that they arrested the head of Telegram a couple weeks ago.


While I don't really care for YT videos to explain things like this (too much room for veiled support and lack of critical thinking audience) Malign Velocities: Accelerationism and Capitalism by Benjamin Noys is the best book I've read on the subject.
 

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This is a new idea to me but it explains the choices of some of the billionaires. These two apparently opposite notions overlap more than you would think on the surface. I’m not promoting the ideas but think this explains a lot of the choices we are seeing from people like Musk. These topics are important to understand and discuss further.


Both have key pathology of the ends justifying the means. The key process of doing this is utilitarianism.

So much what's going wrong in the modern world is this notion that the ends justify the means.

The bias is dressed up to be "rational" through "utility functions."

It's no surprise that Eugenesists and White Supremacists are drawn by similar people.

I had watched both those videos closer to when they came out. I believe @The Cat made me aware of acceleration. I was aware of e/acc before accelerationism in this form.

There's a game, Half-Earth Socialism that also uses the term. But it's use of "accelerationism" closer to "Techno-optimsm" than the version of bringing about the pain faster so we can move on.

It's a game based on the philosophy of the following book:

See if you can win the game without using means that you find unjustified. It's an easy game to win otherwise. I'm mainly vegan myself, so even actions I'd not do in real-life, like banning meat was less visceral for me, but I find it uncomfortable, and in game, I try to do it when people are happiest.

I played Sim City (both old versions as a kid, and newer a little bit when older).

There's plenty of politics in the Sim City game design as well.

Again, see if you can build a city in this toy land where the means you employ are aligned with your values and you still reach the ends you want.

I wish every political-economist/philosophy created a model and a simulation game based on that model.

You can then experience what means the political-economist wants you to employ.

There's software that can allow you to make economic models:

I've downloaded it to try to encode my own earlier. But I am no professional.

To be clear, I absolutely insist that the ends do not justify the means.

Some level of Deontology is needed, I believe.
 
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I know healthcare has a lot of problems, but that's exactly why ethicicists and philosophers coming from that world can be more thoughtful and nuanced, I believe.

Drawing from their frameworks may be better than the simplic things accelerationists and long-termists espouse.


Capabilities theory recognizes that justice requires the fulfillment of central human capabilities which are conducive to a flourishing life lived with dignity. These capabilities include: life, bodily health, bodily integrity, senses, imagination, and thought; emotions; practical reason; affiliation; interactions with other species; play; and control over one’s environment [29].
In some form, [all ten capabilities] are held to be part of a minimum account of social justice: a society that does not guarantee these to all citizens, at some appropriate threshold level, falls short of being a fully just society, whatever its level of opulence [29].
 
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