Jaguar
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I think everyone would agree that both types are manipulative.
So are all of these:
ISTJ
ISFJ
INTJ
ISTP
ISFP
INFP
INTP
ESTP
ESFP
ENFP
ESTJ
ESFJ
ENFJ
ENTJ
I think everyone would agree that both types are manipulative.
I think INFJs are more manipulative because they do it almost unconsciously (at least I do). ENTPs seem to scheme about how to manipulate and it doesn't come as naturally to them as it does to INFJs because ENTPs actually have to make an effort to do the manipulation.
So are all of these:
ISTJ
ISFJ
INTJ
ISTP
ISFP
INFP
INTP
ESTP
ESFP
ENFP
ESTJ
ESFJ
ENFJ
ENTJ
I think INFJ's would be better simply because they would have more bulletproof justification for themselves.
Wanna wrestle about it, showoff ?
Scared I harm you at wrestling !
I can't reveal my secrets in present company, but I always win against ENTPs.
Hmm-
That is a hard one.
Depends on how determined the INFJ is, I agree with Synarch in that we INFJ's bait or manipulate others without them really realizing it if done properly- we kind of set the trail of hershy kisses to be picked up and lead the person where we want them to go. We study the person thoroughly and then plan steps ahead along with decoy and red herring obvious manipulations to keep them off the scent of the real master plan- but the plan is for the children and world peace and getting our way,lol.
My husband is an ENTP and he didn't want me to have my dog when we got married because he hated dogs. I convinced him to make a compromise I had no intention of really making that would have a way for me to get the dog in the end but that would make hubby feel was fair and like all options were explored- the conversation was structured very carefully-hubby likes cats- cats are the gateway drug to getting a pet and the pet I really want is a dog,lol, the "compromise" was to get a cat and then if I didn't like having the cat and gave it a try but if it didn't work out he would give having my dog a try.
I knew I would hate having a cat, I am not a cat hater really but would hate having a cat rather then a dog myself, but got a cat asap- complained and didn't like the cat as I knew I would- I purposely looked for a cat who I would not bond with and who would be an obvious bad match for me.
So- it is obvious me and the cat don't like each other- I make it obvious and annoying, I make the cat be work for him you know with litter box and all-hubby hates work= hubby hates cat too-I make sure hubby doesn't bond with cat either and keep them from bonding, I give a "go" of having a cat for like a month-hubby says okay find a home for it and we'll give the dog a try- I already had a search for a new home for the cat in place and then found a new home "officially" in two weeks and got rid of the cat and got my dog in the end- which was my intention and master plan all along. I let hubby make the decisions- but I am making the trails on which he is deciding where to go and he is following the hershey kisses.
Hubby and dog fell in love with each other as I knew they would and it was bliss ever after.
There was no way I was not going to have my dog-I had had him since I was 11 and was bonded too much it was very symbiotic, I really knew they would love each other but that hubby was just too close minded at the time. If I thought they would be miserable together I wouldn't have done it. No good hearted person could not love a dog and I married a good hearted person, they might have to be forced to be together and give each other a chance but I really believe it is impossible to not love something that is so loving and good to you. Something is seriously wrong if so.
I don't really get what is even immoral about what I said in that post.
It was probably the wording.
P.S. I'm INTP now. (And was before.) I think.