What's bolded is what I mean. I understand the S vs N differences. I've seen what you wrote in bold before, and would like to know more about it. If someone has a good link they could provide, that would help me also.
Thanks!
OK I didn't know if that was what you really ment,
I was chatting to Trintity about tempraments a few weeks back...
SJ = Melancolic = Gaurdian = Earth
SP = Sagnine = Artisan = Air
NF = Choleric = Idealist = Fire elemnet
NT = Phlegmatic = Rational =Water element
If you are realy interested I will source the time they started being attributed as best I can. think around 340 BC
Originally temprements came from from astrology classification, this was in the days when it wasn't a dirty word. It was a means of identifying the constitution of a person in order to treat them medically.
I couldn't find clean links for Trinity.
You need to be really careful, because they get badly applied in modern times. The discussion with Trinity was about NT's and NF's I beleive, she felt that Keirsey had labled them wrongly, I don't think he did.
NF's idealists are not the emotional clouds they are made out to be in MBTI inerpretation, they are the emotives behind campagning, equality, feminisim etc... just give these guys a cause and they will go into bat for you. So rather than being purely emotional. If you need to think of NFs in emotional terms think shallower seas.....
NT's however are phelgamtic, brooding, deep intuatives... ie they do things at a very deep rooted level, when they experience/express and emotion it is totalyl overwhelming, think about it in terms of rising up through an increadibly deep sea... so pretty much darker and more over powering. I've often tested the NT's around the issue, their idealisim about love and gently sought out if their emotions are just not on the surface and it seems to stack up to an extent.
SJ = Melancolics = eather types, intro material stuff, process, rituals etc... which fits SJs pretty well. They want to be known for material stability.
SP = Sangine = Air = sociable, easy light spirits, entertaining, comedic, quick minded... but in the light way not in a depth of the ocean type way...
I'll see what I can dig up.
I know from meeting severly translators of ancient text (part of the astrology communty - do translating so they can get their mits on real information from the ancients), that often information cna be lost through modern interpretation.
In the ancient worls fixed people were considered to be "consistant", and mutable - as fickle, today we see them as stubborn and flexible respectively, so we have nearly reversed our valuing of the two types.
I'm more likely to dig you up medical/astrology references rather than psycologically aplied versions (the bits I saw were very much the modern fluff about the subject). Not really sure that is what you are interested in - if its the psycologist view, then there would likely to be other people better suited. Personally I feel modern corruption looses momentum of what this stuff originally ment.