I know that I have a tendency to make leaps between thoughts without regard for how I got there. If there is something I said that you find muddled or confusing, I would be happy to clarify. Is there a particular reason that you find what I said unreasonable?
I'm not entirely certain what the rest of your post is trying to get at. Are you saying that you think that good and evil are governed by physical laws like gravity?
Oz is informed by the utilitarian philosopher Jeremy Bentham, in fact I live just down the road from Bentham Street. So the working philosophy of Australia is utilitarianism, and the slogan of utilitarianism is, "The greatest good for the greatest number".
And to a degree, with the early introduction of the welfare State, Australia does aim for the greatest good for the greatest number.
Some claim this is a pedestrian aim, while others point out it avoids utopianism.
Still, it has led to a modern welfare State marked by egalitarianism, mate.
TBH, My then G/F got me the job; she worked there, went up to her boss 'and since she is just like Wow 'Future Prime Minister Material' and saidYou were relieved of doing the job through the use of hemorrhoid creams (or quitting,) I hope.
Pop culture, without a doubt.Well... what do you believe it is?
Egoists committing to an altruistic cause.And conversely, what is 'the greatest good'?
I am suggesting that there does exist an objective reality and part of that objective reality is objective good and evil, they are no more inventions or subjective judgements than the physical laws you mention.
Personally I find a lot of the secularist, atheistic and liberal opinions I read on this forum to be what I would consider "younger" thinking.
I am suggesting that there does exist an objective reality and part of that objective reality is objective good and evil, they are no more inventions or subjective judgements than the physical laws you mention.
Personally I find a lot of the secularist, atheistic and liberal opinions I read on this forum to be what I would consider "younger" thinking.
Oh wow, I'm sorry to here about that. It's difficult to have a long distance job to go here and yonder to work. I know people who do do that and don't know how they can.TBH, My then G/F got me the job; she worked there, went up to her boss 'and since she is just like Wow 'Future Prime Minister Material' and said
"You see that boy there?"
Pointing at me,
"can he have a job please?"
They saw me, I passed the interview and they hired me.
She lived in North London, I'm in South, the commute was 24 miles or something stupid like that and, I use public transport; I used her address when getting the job, or my own, but said I'd be staying with her because she lived much closer. I was fired from that job, I was fired for being late too many times in row, I had a 6 hour commute (there and home), I was only there for over a month, if that.
I think I see where we got off track. Terminology notwithstanding (I will switch to yours from here on for the sake of clarity), I think we more or less agree. I agree that there is an objective way to determine if a thing is good or evil. I just went a step further and defined parameters on which I believe objective measurement might be based, those parameters being how harmful/benefitial a thing is.
Of course, if you believe that there is a more appropriate way to determine if something is good or evil, then I would be happy to hear it.
Ad hominems make baby Jesus cry.
I agree to an extent, however I think that viewing the world as an atheist is very useful. thoughts are not good or bad, just like feelings, only suited to particular kinds of tasks. I think it is not always useful to talk of absolute morality or God to people who have been hurt by others who have identified themselves with similar words in the past.
I think moving beyond that requires reconciliation.. on both sides.
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You believe good and evil are not merely human concepts? If so, how do you know?Better way to define good and evil? Good and evil are the definitions and can not be "bettered", I know that a lot of hipster Nietzsche readers arent too hot on the idea but in time either experience or discovering some other author, like Chesterton for instance, makes Nietzsche seem less novel.
Plus I guess growing up just makes it easier to make judgements.