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I'm interested in the idea of art and artistry, there are a number of my favourite philosophers or psychologists who refer to their disciplines, practice and studies as an art form or artistry rather than a science, so far as I can tell this is to do with 1) Acknowledgement of limits or subjectivity, 2) Ascribing an asthetic or appreciative, even romantic dimension contra science.
It makes me think what is art? What does it mean to be an artist is the broadest possible sense? The only person who I think has dealt with this idea in any depth is Oscar Wilde, particularly in The Decay of Lying, Picture of Dorian Gray and peppered all through his essays like Soul of Man Under Socialism.
Wilde suggested that there are both artists in the sense of creative individuals who produce objects of appreciation or enjoyment but there are also artists in a broader sense, such as "artists of life", which from what I can tell are people whose lives are either parables, cautionary tales or achieve notoriety, unsure about this, in short because I detest celebrity culture, although I acknowledge he could be talking about biography instead.
However one thing he does suggest, like some more recent or modern philosophers, that you can not say things are not art, you can say it is good or bad art but not that it is not art. So the idea is because objects are presented or connected with art or artistry they become art. So there is such a thing then as modern art in which displaying a urinal is art because it is the idea of a famous artist to do so.
This is certainly a great talking point, it can prompt some great conversations but I think that honestly when considered in contrast to some of finest paintings I've seen in museams or even great photography a hell of a lot of it is conceit, charlatanism and the emperors new clothes.
You wind up with the idea that any old shit an artist produces is art. Sometimes literally:- Artist's shit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What's your view?
Art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I'm interested in the idea of art and artistry, there are a number of my favourite philosophers or psychologists who refer to their disciplines, practice and studies as an art form or artistry rather than a science, so far as I can tell this is to do with 1) Acknowledgement of limits or subjectivity, 2) Ascribing an asthetic or appreciative, even romantic dimension contra science.
It makes me think what is art? What does it mean to be an artist is the broadest possible sense? The only person who I think has dealt with this idea in any depth is Oscar Wilde, particularly in The Decay of Lying, Picture of Dorian Gray and peppered all through his essays like Soul of Man Under Socialism.
Wilde suggested that there are both artists in the sense of creative individuals who produce objects of appreciation or enjoyment but there are also artists in a broader sense, such as "artists of life", which from what I can tell are people whose lives are either parables, cautionary tales or achieve notoriety, unsure about this, in short because I detest celebrity culture, although I acknowledge he could be talking about biography instead.
However one thing he does suggest, like some more recent or modern philosophers, that you can not say things are not art, you can say it is good or bad art but not that it is not art. So the idea is because objects are presented or connected with art or artistry they become art. So there is such a thing then as modern art in which displaying a urinal is art because it is the idea of a famous artist to do so.
This is certainly a great talking point, it can prompt some great conversations but I think that honestly when considered in contrast to some of finest paintings I've seen in museams or even great photography a hell of a lot of it is conceit, charlatanism and the emperors new clothes.
You wind up with the idea that any old shit an artist produces is art. Sometimes literally:- Artist's shit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What's your view?