Johnfloyd6675
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From the perspective of the emo-neurotic-ESTJ like ENFP :
This and even INTPness's earlier enfp sound like lots of NeFi, but maybe not a real well developed Te to help ground in the day to day details and follow through on plans.
Theoretically if an Ne-dom has tons of Ne, but a poor judging functions, they live in the moment and never make a choice-thus seem very silly, spastic and flighty. Like me and the chicken thread or the silly young ENTPs here. It's fun.
Combine with a bit of overdevelopment of the tert or poor development of both tert and aux-and they cant figure out which choice to make. They flip between the two judging functions.
Jung in his analysis of Ne describes our intuition as an attempt by the brain (I prefer brains to psyches) to envision all contingencies possible within a given situation, to identify problems, and to excite ourselves silly over the opportunities we discover.
ENTP is an unusual type with many intrinsic problems- not least among which is the fact that a hyped-up, manic, or drunk ENTP could win any given "Who's the Biggest Jackass" contest anywhere in the world- but I don't think it's chauvinism to say that our dominant function is mad cooler than everybody else's.
When it gets going, Ne is like a news aggregator and robot blogger hardwared into one computer: new knowledge (or experience) flows above your head like up-to-the-second indie journalism, and the robot blogger (the voice in your head) gets on his soapbox, hijacks the muscles that control your mouth, and starts giving the world a piece of its mind.
I'm bipolar, by which I mean I'm "type I bipolar, severe and with psychotic features" (this bipolar II is nonsense) so my experience of Ne during mania may be difference. The entire CNS is in overdrive and thoughts race faster than a healthy person would believe in a million years, but it's like ideas are being dropped on you, showered on you. The way they refer and signify one another during Ne reminds me of the Northern Lights; this brief, ethereal river of meaning for us in our tents.
In a roomful of Guardian/Artisan types, having a brain that booted from Ne that morning puts me at the very least one step ahead of everybody else and at the very most makes a spectacle of my trait of being funny and mean in turns. I agree wholeheartedly that Thinking must be the rein we hold as we try to bring Ne under control. I'm sure we've all made three-cheeked asses of ourselves at once point or another, probably by saying something that managed to offend everyone in your office complex.
Thinking, as a decisive process, should be used to enforce practical guidelines on the Ne, to inflict a fundamental soundness on any intuitive idea that's trying to get ahold of your body and make it carry it all out. Thinking should, like Hercules, drag the intuitive river of meaning onto a course that we set. You're in a bad situation if Ne is being used to hose down your horseshit.
Now, as for intuition vs. sensing, one might think that feelings could get hurt if we're too blunt or frank about things. Sensing seems to me a much more basic mode of data mining than intuition; the human body reports the facts of the environment to its Sensie brain, information unadulterated by craziness, speculation, or a psychiatric condition known as "craziness." Being a Sensie for a week, I imagine I'd appreciate the fragilities of flowers and the way mud feels between my toes, but after three days I expect I'd be jonesing for my Ne back.
Ne's info-improvisational superpowers elevate our perceptive function to the level of the pattern, the structure, the totality, and it is from of the less-detailed, get-the-idea-of-it objects that remarkable ideas originate. We must be careful with our Ti to hypothetically "go down" in an imaginary execution of our plan, which during this paragraph I wrote on the back of a napkin. But so long as we don't let our intuitions dictate our actions, but instead inform the brass in Thinking with the best perceptions possible.
I also definitely associate Sensing with Introversion, while Intuition remains an ambiverted/leaning NT function. I happen to think Extroverted Sensing is weird and would like an ESxy to explain themselves.