Venom
Babylon Candle
- Joined
- Feb 10, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- INTJ
- Enneagram
- 1w9
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/sx
They're both very banter-y.
Ne humor is based on connecting unlikely ideas/people/things in the outer world into funny combinations/wording things in ways that, through subtext, could be interpreted in numerous different ways. Ne humor is generally implied rather than blunt, but the pieces are always there for you to put together and the speaker almost always wants the listener to be able to connect the dots and discover the humor--after all, it's based on patterns that exist out there in the external world, and would continue to exist whether or not we were here to observe them.
Example, George Carlin: "I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, 'Where's the self-help section?' She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose."
Ni, on the other hand, doesn't always particularly care if anyone else understands the humor, because it's based on rearranging internal definitions of perspective and breaking down the assumptions inherent in the way one looks at things. Ni humor is more subtle and rarely displays the outwardly absurd/over the top nature of Ne humor.
Remember that Ni believes everything is totally a function of perception, so if something's funny to me it might not necessarily be funny to you, and so Ni will sometimes make quiet deadpan jokes that are extraordinarily funny to the speaker, but that there isn't enough even information for a listener to even put it together--but that's not the point, since it's all in the way you look at it anyway.
A lot of Ni humor is based on poking subtle fun at people who place too much stock in their own arbitrary views of reality.
Example, Bill Hicks: "My boss always used to say, 'Hicks, how come you're not working?'
And I'd say, 'Cause there's nothing to do.'
And he'd say, 'Well, you pretend like you're working!'
'Well, why don't you pretend I'm working? Yeah, you get paid more than me, you fantasize! Pretend I'm mopping. Knock yourself out. I'll pretend they're buying stuff; we can close up! I'm the boss; now YOU'RE fired! How's that for imagination?'"
Now clearly, being a standup comedian, Hicks wanted his audience to understand the humor here when he told the joke live--but you can tell that at the time the actual situation he describes was happening, he was sardonically mocking his boss for taking his own view of reality too seriously and he really didn't give a shit if the boss got the joke or not--as long as Hicks himself saw the connection and appreciated it. That's Ni.
P.S.,
Family Guy is 100% Ne. King of The Hill is more Ni...if that helps.
I tend to agree (have thought before) with all of this.
South Park would DEFINITELY be Ni (it makes a living of tearing down people who think they have a monopoly on truth/take their perceptions too seriously). Which is strange, because everyone always wants to type the creator as ENTP.
Its also funny that you note King of the Hill. I think I might be the ONLY person I know who likes that show. No one else (that i know irl) seems to "get" the humor like I do... Its all about knowing the world views that the show mocks/pays tribute to.
Family Guy I think could be Se or Ne. The little cut away scenes are definitely Ne in seeing the possibilities. However, there is a definite "immediate reaction" "overly bold" humor that most Se people tend to appreciate.
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