Mr. Sherlock Holmes
Consulting Detective
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PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS... itty bitty living space
I was thinking ENTP. Seemed like a bit of an Fe smooth-talker.
PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS... itty bitty living space
House ENFP?!
Annnnd - the thread asked for the the most awesome examples of ENFPs not the most obnoxious.
Why not? House is a depressed, moralistic misanthropic bastard who believes the worst of everyone else (and refuses any reasoning contrary to it) just so he can feel better about himself. This has seriously been deconstructed in the show so many times it's not funny.No way House is an ENFP. Not that ENFPs can't be jerks, but they cannot be jerks in that way.
Why not? House is a depressed, moralistic misanthropic bastard who believes the worst of everyone else (and refuses any reasoning contrary to it) just so he can feel better about himself. This has seriously been deconstructed in the show so many times it's not funny.
ENFPs can believe absolutely anything. The key is that their beliefs are guided by a framework of personal feelings and ideals (Fi) as opposed to a personal framework of logical deduction (Ti), an external framework of evidence (Te), or an external framework of communally-derived beliefs (Fe). House's reasons for believing what he believes are basically "because I said so," with some ever-shifting convoluted explanation to serve as a smokescreen.
The word you're looking for is probably "sarcastic," or perhaps just "funny."
ENFPs can believe absolutely anything. The key is that their beliefs are guided by a framework of personal feelings and ideals (Fi) as opposed to a personal framework of logical deduction (Ti), an external framework of evidence (Te), or an external framework of communally-derived beliefs (Fe). House's reasons for believing what he believes are basically "because I said so," with some ever-shifting convoluted explanation to serve as a smokescreen.
The word you're looking for is probably "sarcastic," or perhaps just "funny."
Wait. Hasn't anybody yet mentioned JD from Scrubs?
And since Scrubs loves extraverted intuitives, we can probably assume the weird bird (some type of swan / emu hybrid?) is ENFP too.
Well no, it's just that everyone (Including myself I'm ashamed to admit) has typed Tony Stark ENTP (some have typed him ESTP). Rewatching Iron Man today, I gotta say I believe we were all mistaken. He's a crusader knight filled who happens to be a playful playboy in his spare time -- typical of any male Pe-dominant really.^^^ Most of the NFs on this board are snarky pricks so I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think it's more to do with you mistyping people then considering what you think they are to be "fact" when it's really just your opinion.
You missed my point. What matters in functional analysis is not what a believes believes but why he believes it -- and House is misanthropic for Fi-driven, rather than Ti-driven, reasons. He does not look down on humanity because in an intellectual level he deems them inferior. He does it because doing so makes him feel better about himself.Yes, I understand that but what you said could also go for any other type who could believe whatever they want with whatever their function is, not just enfp. The negative side of enfp is not like House (a character I've never seen the appeal of.).
I certainly don't think that all, or even most, ENFPs (even damaged ENFPs) behave the way House does, but his behavior fits the profile of Fi -- and he is a painfully obvious Ne-dominant.I think that's an overtly negative understanding of what makes an enfp tick. Which is probably how you mistyped yourself.
Not in that sense... I mean, as in they can hold any particular set of beliefs, so long as the reason behind them is Fi-driven, and still qualify as ENFP. Typing someone on the basis that "X type does not act like this" is inherently fallacious. You have to look deeper.ENFPs can believe anything?
Does anyone else think JD is ENFJ It's been a long time since I've watched Scrubs.
It's actually the other way around. He usually has some logical explanation or another for his beliefs, but they're afterthoughts -- rationalizing, as opposed to rationality. Wilson and Foreman in particular spend half the show shoving that fact in House's face.House says "because i said so" because he is unpatient to explain his logical deduction out loud ans his ideas. To intellectually inferior people around him. Happens with everybody who knows too much. Not a sign of Fi, LOL