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I thought this was too obvious to explain. Intuitives see both sides of the story; the Sensor in my example sees only one side.
Irony.
I thought this was too obvious to explain. Intuitives see both sides of the story; the Sensor in my example sees only one side.
This is fascinating, because I normally review past conversations, really analyze them. When I am stressed, I can see possibilities for disaster around every corner, and suddenly looking at things with a measured view becomes hard.
Irony.
conclusion:
the real differences between us lie in terms of focus and attentiveness. he is highly present-focused and attuned to the ambient environment. i am highly future-focused and attuned to the conceptual realm.
we are both imaginative, contemplative, dissatisfied with the status quo, practical (i am e6, after all), linguistically sophisticated, motivated by short-term enjoyment, open to multiple sides of issues, and loyal to our friends.
Everybody daydreams, it depends on the content. Consider someone who daydreams about making more money and achieving success, versus daydreaming about galaxies colliding, or unicorns.
When I'm daydreaming I make up fantasy stories, imagine conversations with people or review past conversations, think about typology, etc. Sometimes I imagine that I'm that in an alternate universe or something and everything around me looks different--suddenly the McDonalds I'm sitting in looks like a futuristic cafe on the edge of a cliff on an alien planet.
whereas reviewing past conversations comes automatically when I'm under stress.
This is fascinating, because I normally review past conversations, really analyze them. When I am stressed, I can see possibilities for disaster around every corner, and suddenly looking at things with a measured view becomes hard.
Is it possible for anyone to look at the Eiffel tower without seeing it as phallic, domeneering, and power prooving?
That part about being stressed describes tertiary Ne. And even if you're an ISTJ, analysis suggests that Si is your auxiliary and not your dominant.
Yep I would say this is a classic difference between Ne/Si and Si/Ne. I'm not sure about the imagining the space cafe thing specifically, as that may happen to anyone who is bored waiting at a McDonalds
I was wondering how anyone could possibly automatically see those things in the Eiffel Tower unless they were recently in a literature or sociology course
Maybe because they are sort of value judgements they would come more natural with an Fi influence, and I think of more mechanical things like "if we made the tower out of a stretchier substance it would make the coolest catapult ever"
That sounds about right. Imagining alternate realities is something I have to make a conscious effort to do, whereas reviewing past conversations comes automatically when I'm under stress.
I get flooded with negative past conversations during stress. Every stupid, embarrassing, cringe-worthy thing I said comes back to me. The rest of the time, the past hardly registers. I couldn't recall most of this stuff if I tried, but under stress, I get flooded by it. This of course stresses me out further, which amplifies the flooding, ... --> disaster.
when i look at the eiffel tower i think about how paris is the "city of light" and how it looks like it's reaching up and shooting to the heavens. i don't get all this phallic imagery.
on the other hand:
GIANT PENIS
when i look at the eiffel tower i think about how paris is the "city of light" and how it looks like it's reaching up and shooting to the heavens. i don't get all this phallic imagery.
on the other hand:
GIANT PENIS
What does this mean? Sounds kind of ambiguous to me. Are you suggesting that S's are made out of cement and aggregate? Or do mean that they are Con-Cretians? What if some of them are Pro-Crete?Concrete
All I can think of is that they AREN'T Pinocchios.Realistic
So... N's are sado-masochists who write emo poetry and hit them selves with cat-o-nine tails? Intriguing. I could buy this one.Prize enjoyment
Of what? Tide changes? Clothing? Which streets have construction on them at which time and therefore they avoid those streets in order to not get stuck in traffic?Aware of current trends
Huh? Where else can any of us live. WTF... DID THE OTHER N's INVENT TIME TRAVEL AND NOT SHARE WITH ME?!?!!?!?!Lives in the present
How do we measure "straight" talk? With the ruler of S-ness?Often use straight talk
What is there to be aware of other than: Here I be?Aware of surroundings
I notice Details. Especially when she wears a low cut dress and short skirt.Notices details
If there is a conflict in a story (and most should) then it's a crime of some sort.Often like crime novels
I think T types of either sex of S or N can be considered practical. I have an ISFP friend where the word "practical" would arrive practically last in a list of her attributes.Practical
Again, I would suggest that this would be more of a "T" trait than S versus N. Just spend ten minutes reading some of the INTPs who post on here.Factual
What does this even mean? Are S's gifted with an extra organ whereupon what they think does not arrive in the land of imagination? To observe you must employ imagination to make the present come alive.Observation over imagination
No, I think HUMANS are often content with the status quo.Often content with status quo
What does this mean? Make what happen? Cupcakes? Is it cupcakes? OMG TELL ME ITS CUPCAKSES!!!Make things happen
Oh yes, because the N motto is "True friends stab you in the front." (Often REPEATEDLY because us N's are tricksy like that.) May I remind you that you................ CAN'T SPELL "FRIEND" WITHOUT AN "N"!!!!Loyal to friends
This has about the same scientific merit that socionics does when it pretends to be able to identify types based on face shape.If American; more likely to be conservative
*gazes into distance* Yes, I predict I get one rep comment for this post that says LOL.Future-focused
I possibly see possibilities but it could possibly take far too long to make them possible or impossible based on how probable the odds are.Sees possibilities
Actually I would prefer Prize: Pulitzer or Nobel. But I guess I can take inspiration. Does it pay anything? I haz cupcakes to buy!Prize inspiration
Fuck yeah I am. Hahaha, poor S's! You toil away in the bunny coin fields of humanity with nary a vision or ability to sense your own perspiring inspiration! Hahahahhaa... P.S. Are you feeling inspired to bake me some cupcakes?Aware of own inspiration
I like to reenact Gettysburg. Does that count?Introspective about the past
Hmm *squints eyes* Off-ten uze diff-I-cult wurrrrrddddzzzzz.Often use difficult words
I will have you know that my ideas are UNICORNS NOT PEGASI. (Unicorns are sans wings!)Flighty ideas
I mag in a Tive? Actually I mag in a bed.Imaginative
It's true. I like novels where nothing happens instead.Often dislike crime novels
N= Mirror? Wut?Reflects but does not always do
Theoretically I am thinking of something else right now. Theoretically I am mocking humanity's existence right now. Theoretically I really want some damn cupcakes already.Theoretical
I imagine that I am sitting in a chair at my desk observing my computer monitor.Imagination over observation
More like "often restless when veins are flowing with sugar." I NEED CUPCAKES STAT.Often restless with status quo
I don't like contemplating "things". I like to contemplate "verbs" because they do stuff.Contemplate things
It's easy to see both sides if you turn it in your hands.See both sides
Again.... not really scientific so no.If American; more likely to be liberal
This is exactly how it is for me too. Hmm...if you use Si, wouldn't that make you ENxP? Then you would be Si inferior, which could explain why you say normally the past hardly registers.
I have a lot of traits of inferior Si, and very few of inferior Ni, so I could well be ENP (I know the EP part for sure). I have also decided that I probably have the Ti-Fe axis and not the Fi-Te one. But I can't see Ne in myself at all, really. I think my functional order is like: Ti = Fe >> Si but I can't see any Pe. lol, I'm so confused.