Eric B
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- sp/sx
Each of the four SJ's is Melancholy (in Control), blended with wach of the Interaction Styles, or four temperaments in Inclusion. (Chart the Course-IST/INJ: Melancholy; Behind the Scenes-ISF/INP: Phlegmatic or Supine; Get Things Going-ESF/ENP: Sanguine; In Charge-EST/ENJ: Choleric. ISTJ-pure Melancholy, ISFJ- Phlegmatic Melancholy or Supine Melancholy, ESFJ- Sanguine Melancholy, ESTJ- Choleric Melancholy.Those are not right though, after reading the descriptions of the temperaments, they don't only match SJ's or guardians.
You could still post your responses. As you see with others who've posted their answers, we can still get good clues from which archetypes they match their functions with. One person assigned a single function to almost all of the shadow roles, and it turned out this was the "inferior" (aspirational/projective) process of her professed type, and it happens that many people will see their inferior playing all those negative roles. After all, in original four-process theory, the inferior WAS "the shadow" and the most negative ego function. So that was great evidence of her type.Thanks, Eric B. I tried your archetypes test, but it was too difficult for me (I've tried finding how my processes fit within the archetypes with little success -- it seems like a few processes can fit a single archetype).
I had my mom answer the 5 temperaments test with me in mind, and here are the results:
Melancholy 68
Phlegmatic 64
Sanguine 63
Supine 55
Choleric 55
This is very interesting! I guess I'm not so Supine afterall! Rather, it would appear that I am either a MelPhleg (INFJ) or MelSang (ISTP). ISTP is what my professional MBTI test came up with and is one of the two best fit type profiles I identify with (the other is ISFP, although ask Jeffster -- he is SURE I am not ISFP).
Any thoughts?
Well, I guess you're taking into consideration the Johari Window (how others see you, and perhaps even things that are unknown to yourself. With that kind of a test, it may even be better, since you are picking traits out of a chart (it's not getting inside the real you, psychometrically, and it's easy to avoid traits you don't like).
So MelSan and MelPhleg are very similar, both cognitively, as well as being Melancholy on the social level, and a concrete conative temperament. They are both what I call "aspective harmonicists" (Tandem names thread), using both Se/Ni and Fe/Ti (though in reversed order). ISFP also has the aspective perception, but is systemic in judgment (FiTe). Again, the Archetype test can still help sort out those, even if everything does not fall into proper place. In any case, it seems you lean unanimously towards aspective, so ISFJ (which is circumspective-Si/Ne) is most likely out.
TheJimbo
[Professed] Type: xNTP
Sanguine 52
Choleric 51
Melancholy 45
Phlegmatic 42
Supine 24
SanChlor, so you can fill that "x" with an E, and there, it matches!
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