Anja
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Recently the Godmother of my daughter "died" on the operating table. Both her electrocardiogram and her electroencephalogram flat-lined. I don't know how long she was in this condition.
But they revived her and the nurses were curious about what she had experienced while she was "dead." They said occasionally they have this experience with a patient and ask them.
What she described was the usual story of the light, tunnel, beautiful music, an intense sense of well-being, friendly people greeting her and a reluctance to return.
They nodded, familiar with the tale.
Then, she said, she went on to describe which of the hospital staff was where in the room and what they were each doing. She said that she was watching them from the ceiling. And she asked where a particular cart that had been brought into the room during resuscitation was. This surprised them as it had been removed before she had regained consciousness. She also was able to repeat some of the conversation made while she was flat-lined.
I have very little familiarity with NDEs but it is my understanding that when your brain and heart are flat-lined you are, indeed, dead.
I've read some scientific explanations for the lights, music. It is suggested that this is the brain's swan song as it dies and the cells flicker out. That makes sense to me.
But this other thing - the numerous cases piling up and documented by hospital staff, scientific minds, of people being able to report what went on while they were clinically dead has me puzzled. How can that be explained scientifically?
Are there any here of those of you who have stated your belief that, once you are clinically dead you no longer exist, able to explain this phenomenom in a scientific manner?
Certainly not all of the multitude of documented cases can be hoaxes.
A further question would be that if you no longer exist, once clinically dead, how are they able to call "you" back to life? You no longer exist!
Anyone want to give a stab at helping me to understand your line of thinking regarding this?
But they revived her and the nurses were curious about what she had experienced while she was "dead." They said occasionally they have this experience with a patient and ask them.
What she described was the usual story of the light, tunnel, beautiful music, an intense sense of well-being, friendly people greeting her and a reluctance to return.
They nodded, familiar with the tale.
Then, she said, she went on to describe which of the hospital staff was where in the room and what they were each doing. She said that she was watching them from the ceiling. And she asked where a particular cart that had been brought into the room during resuscitation was. This surprised them as it had been removed before she had regained consciousness. She also was able to repeat some of the conversation made while she was flat-lined.
I have very little familiarity with NDEs but it is my understanding that when your brain and heart are flat-lined you are, indeed, dead.
I've read some scientific explanations for the lights, music. It is suggested that this is the brain's swan song as it dies and the cells flicker out. That makes sense to me.
But this other thing - the numerous cases piling up and documented by hospital staff, scientific minds, of people being able to report what went on while they were clinically dead has me puzzled. How can that be explained scientifically?
Are there any here of those of you who have stated your belief that, once you are clinically dead you no longer exist, able to explain this phenomenom in a scientific manner?
Certainly not all of the multitude of documented cases can be hoaxes.
A further question would be that if you no longer exist, once clinically dead, how are they able to call "you" back to life? You no longer exist!
Anyone want to give a stab at helping me to understand your line of thinking regarding this?