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Could you cite the sources for these? I need to eat them up, I love them so.
Crap, I forgot to put the link in there. How silly of me.
Here you go.
Could you cite the sources for these? I need to eat them up, I love them so.
If you're a 6, how much fear do you really feel? Do you think feel you're essentially a mouse? Even if you're in a lion costume?
If you're a 6, how much fear do you really feel? Do you think feel you're essentially a mouse? Even if you're in a lion costume?
I would rebrand their "fear" as "unproductive thought".
Also, one of my business partners is a 6. He wrote the entire business plan by himself and planned to run the business completely on his own. [...] 6: well, that actually makes me a little nervous. I put a lot of time and effort into this
Another 6 story, my boss when I worked as a painter, would tell us he bought us pizza for lunch so we wouldn't have to think about what we'll eat that day. I said thanks, gave him the pizza he ordered, and went to my car and ate the lunch I already packed. haha.
This is the second time you've mentioned this anecdote on the forum. I find it interesting, because to me it just seems like a simple demonstration of good will, and not really a big deal or worth bringing up, but it clearly struck a chord with you. Why? It feels like forced and unhelpful "helpfulness" from someone you don't like?
It stuck in my mind because it was the most obvious form of E6 projection anxiety I've encountered, so I use it as my quintessential example.
My behaviour patterns are clearly 6, but what I can't wrap my head around is this idea that I'm supposed to be afraid all of the time. I've read people mentioning that counter phobic 6's aren't really brave, we're just secretly scaredy cats inside.
I guess in a way, you can say that me making a contingency plan, or steping up to something I dread is rooted in fear. But I don't experience it as proper fear, just as being alert or facing things head on. What I do is typically reactive, but I resent being seen as essentially timid. I just respond to things that I'm alerted to as potentially dangerous.
If you're a 6, how much fear do you really feel? Do you think feel you're essentially a mouse? Even if you're in a lion costume?
Now 6w5's aren't as reactive as 6w7's and you can't openly see the anxiety of their faces and in their body language like the 6w7's. Phobic 6w5's are often the doom and gloom conspiracy theorists that always think that the government is taking over and whatnot. They also tend to ]over prepare for any type of disaster ever [...] A good TV example of a counter-phobic 6w5 would be Michael Weston from "Burn Notice".
Absolutely to both of these. I worked with a woman I think was an ISTP cp 6w5 and she was always going on about how everyone was trying to screw our department over, and conspiracy theories in the company, and conspiracy theories in the government, and so on. She was usually serious about it, but sometimes she'd get a glint in her eye and you could tell she kind of enjoyed being feisty. We all loved her because she was a softie inside and really protective, but she was totally the doomsday-prepper type. She kept all of her work supplies in a padlocked box and flipped out if anything wasn't in its place when she got there in the morning. She had a morning routine that would consist of coming in 30 minutes early (against the rules), eating a pastry in the back (against the rules), and leaving as early as possible in the day (against the rules), but other rules she followed to a T. She always did her job and did it well but she'd rant the whole time if she was riled up and would try to clear the hell out ASAP. Once her husband went to church with a black eye because he'd run into something and she told everyone she hit him to cover his embarrassment for it, even though all of us knew she'd never hurt a fly. She was fun. I miss her.
Though sometimes she and another coworker who I think is INFJ 6w7, SUPER phobic, would kind of wind each other up, and they'd just flip each other out completely, and that would suck. They'd be like two horsemen of the Apocalypse.