Elfboy
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- Nov 26, 2008
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- ENFP
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- 5w4
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- sx/sp
I wish to burn that with fire. I disagree with it as well.
do you really hate yourself that much?
I wish to burn that with fire. I disagree with it as well.
I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that I agree to the fact being selfish is good, however it is difficult to get an ideology that has been pounded into your skull, out. That ideology being that it is wrong to be selfish.
Exactly. So much so that early on when I was trying to exit that point of view the guilt was painful, very painful. The guilt is there, but I now understand that it doesn't make sense to live by a rule that no one else does. Few people live by the level of humility that I tried to attain (I'm talking Jesus stuff... I used to be devoutly Catholic. I am not atheist I believe in God, but not religion) Now I find myself aggravated at the amount of time I've wasted trying to achieve something so impossible, though I'm sure it will never leave me, because I see the theory of being selfless.
I have, but then we go back to the image I wanted to show people.
Just skimmed over 1 and 2 descriptions and I don't know if I like people enough to be either one of those two (ha!).
Perhaps I am an INFP 3. I have always wondered if this ENTP business was a facade, and I was just getting comfortable. You see though... INFP means that the belief stemmed from something internal, mine wasn't my own belief, but something I was shown and supposed to accept.
Hm, maybe. Though I think the next logical step would be ESFJ. I don't know if introverted intuition exists within me.
Though I also don't think i have the multi-faceted version of Fe like a dom-user would. Which usually brings me back to ENTP.
Took the similar minds test just now and got unstable INTP. Barely though. Two percent dividing line between introversion and extroversion and that might be just because I am tired. The unstable part I'm sure is based off of the L in the big five I got RLUEI. If I were a little calmer it wouldn't have been so.
The thought that it isn't acceptable to be self-serving.
Back to op:
3 vs 4:
I have a friend who's a 3w4 sp/sx infp. We have many similarities. But... An example of a glaring difference-
I'm doing this three day novel writing contest in sept. Reason- so that I will actually sit down and write the novel I've been meaning to write for eons. (i spent five years writing a novel that I never finished because I spent too much time getting side tracked by research. And then I was bored with it.) Deadlines help me because then I'm forced to stop. More than anything, though, I love the idea of unfettered soul digging expression for three solid days. Ahhh...)
So I asked my friend if she was interested since she also writes. Her immediate response: "i would never pay the fifty bucks to enter unless I knew I could win." The prospect of winning had in all honesty never even crossed my brain. If anything, i'd rather not. I could use some more ambition.
It depends. I think it's impossible to serve others without being self-serving first, (unless you're a saint or a very special person.)
Yeah, it's easy to get in the ironic statements of you aren't really self-sacrificing if you enjoy it. At the core of that thought it is correct, but even still the level of deprecation that you have to put yourself through is tremendous. And if you realize that contradiction and you still wish to be self-sacrificing at that point I think you could find a way to be so without enjoying it... Don't know how. I'd say I forced myself to pretty damn close to sainthood when I was younger.