Cypocalypse
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I was trying to decide at first whether the topic is more appropriate to post on the NF forum or the NT one. But since there are probably more male NTs than NFs, I decided to post the issue here.
Seriously, How many of you guys here have problems getting stuck in this disposition?
Some personal thoughts based on observation:
ENTJ - will probably not acknowledge it if he ever gets involve in one. In the first place, are there too many freindly ENTJs to begin with that they can land a spot even in the platonic friendship department? Secretly, they wish so bad to be Brad Pitt when in truth they're probably more like Donald Trump.
INTJ - possibly the most schizoid among the intuitives. Lack of social skills is very very evident, but compared to ENTJs, have no glaring desire to be that Brad Pitt Alpha male. Pretty much smart enough to get so involved in a field that they know they have know legit expertise in. Friendly enough in the sense that there's no intent to over assert himself (unlike ENTJ), though still has those occasional moments of NTJ bluntness, but pretty much bearable. It's probably the intuitive archetype that is least likely to cheat, so probably the INTJ gets to have that market of gals who wants serious faithful relationships.
INTP - actually, any NP (INTP, ENTP, ENFP, INFP) is the best prospect to be friend zoned. NP is the broad-minded archetype. Only that, INTPs are probably the most assertive. It's like talking to Dr. Phil. You know that the person sincerely wants to help you but there's always a question of whether he's sympathetic enough in his delivery. Half of the crowd will like him, half will hate him, and it's another story as to girls are so into him.
The other INTPs I know are deliberately more involved in the dating scene, at least compared to INTJ. They're probably as socially inept as INTJ but there's more deliberate effort to get involved in "the game". One manifestation is how they "assert" themselves thru their opinions, which gives others the notion that they're "showing off". Kinda like what ENTJ does. Though there are chances that things can backfire once they show their INTP idiosyncrasies.
ENTP - the "cooler" brother of the INTP. Pretty much the "coolest" rational. The best ENTP I know can seduce an ESFP just by a witty Ne based smooth talking. And if smooth talking doesn't talk, there's still that childish charisma. Even if not a "player" in the strictest sense, there's still a lot of things going. One major difference with the INTP is how the ENTP is significantly more concerned with how his message is perceived by the recipient (presumably less smart). A healthier Fe, perhaps.
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ENFJ - the true player among the intuitives. Least likely to get friend zoned. The Barack Obama archetype. Waaaay above every other archetype (ENTP could be a distant second). The only intuitive archetype that can come off as SF in big social occasions, but packs that intuitive depth that can connect to you deeply in more intimate interactions. Very good listener, and talks your language.
INFJ - I haven't seen a male one. So I'm referring from an INFJ that I know. Very good listener also. Only that, they seem to less likely to cater to a very big demographics of people compared to ENFJ, hence creating an impression that they prefer closer ties with fewer people even if Fe is their strong function.
INFP - the quintessential FRIEND ZONE archetype. Is it just me or are most INFPs depressed? I mean, quite seriously depressed. They're supposed to be the psychologist/personal prozac archetype, but they're as capable of telling other people a truckload of their problems as much as the other problematic person. Prejudice aside, the male INFPs that I know are too feminine (depressed feminine to add to that), I can't get off the gay connotation in there.
ENFP - the happy INFP. One ENFP guy I know is single. And he also that "gay" impression. Only that he's really happy (unlike the INFP). Gay (pun intended). It can be a charming female archetype, but I couldn't say for certain for an ENFP guy. Though the ENFP guy can get as witty as their ENTP brothers, the ENTP has that more malicious T based sarcasm that much more feels like that it wants to hound women.
Seriously, How many of you guys here have problems getting stuck in this disposition?
Some personal thoughts based on observation:
ENTJ - will probably not acknowledge it if he ever gets involve in one. In the first place, are there too many freindly ENTJs to begin with that they can land a spot even in the platonic friendship department? Secretly, they wish so bad to be Brad Pitt when in truth they're probably more like Donald Trump.
INTJ - possibly the most schizoid among the intuitives. Lack of social skills is very very evident, but compared to ENTJs, have no glaring desire to be that Brad Pitt Alpha male. Pretty much smart enough to get so involved in a field that they know they have know legit expertise in. Friendly enough in the sense that there's no intent to over assert himself (unlike ENTJ), though still has those occasional moments of NTJ bluntness, but pretty much bearable. It's probably the intuitive archetype that is least likely to cheat, so probably the INTJ gets to have that market of gals who wants serious faithful relationships.
INTP - actually, any NP (INTP, ENTP, ENFP, INFP) is the best prospect to be friend zoned. NP is the broad-minded archetype. Only that, INTPs are probably the most assertive. It's like talking to Dr. Phil. You know that the person sincerely wants to help you but there's always a question of whether he's sympathetic enough in his delivery. Half of the crowd will like him, half will hate him, and it's another story as to girls are so into him.
The other INTPs I know are deliberately more involved in the dating scene, at least compared to INTJ. They're probably as socially inept as INTJ but there's more deliberate effort to get involved in "the game". One manifestation is how they "assert" themselves thru their opinions, which gives others the notion that they're "showing off". Kinda like what ENTJ does. Though there are chances that things can backfire once they show their INTP idiosyncrasies.
ENTP - the "cooler" brother of the INTP. Pretty much the "coolest" rational. The best ENTP I know can seduce an ESFP just by a witty Ne based smooth talking. And if smooth talking doesn't talk, there's still that childish charisma. Even if not a "player" in the strictest sense, there's still a lot of things going. One major difference with the INTP is how the ENTP is significantly more concerned with how his message is perceived by the recipient (presumably less smart). A healthier Fe, perhaps.
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ENFJ - the true player among the intuitives. Least likely to get friend zoned. The Barack Obama archetype. Waaaay above every other archetype (ENTP could be a distant second). The only intuitive archetype that can come off as SF in big social occasions, but packs that intuitive depth that can connect to you deeply in more intimate interactions. Very good listener, and talks your language.
INFJ - I haven't seen a male one. So I'm referring from an INFJ that I know. Very good listener also. Only that, they seem to less likely to cater to a very big demographics of people compared to ENFJ, hence creating an impression that they prefer closer ties with fewer people even if Fe is their strong function.
INFP - the quintessential FRIEND ZONE archetype. Is it just me or are most INFPs depressed? I mean, quite seriously depressed. They're supposed to be the psychologist/personal prozac archetype, but they're as capable of telling other people a truckload of their problems as much as the other problematic person. Prejudice aside, the male INFPs that I know are too feminine (depressed feminine to add to that), I can't get off the gay connotation in there.
ENFP - the happy INFP. One ENFP guy I know is single. And he also that "gay" impression. Only that he's really happy (unlike the INFP). Gay (pun intended). It can be a charming female archetype, but I couldn't say for certain for an ENFP guy. Though the ENFP guy can get as witty as their ENTP brothers, the ENTP has that more malicious T based sarcasm that much more feels like that it wants to hound women.