Trump vs. Biden

[Siúil a Rúin]

Here's a link to Trump foreign policy actions during his presidency. I am not impressed.

Trump’s Foreign Policy Moments | Council on Foreign Relations

He stops free trade agreements, lifts environmental regulations, rejects Palestinian concerns, withdraws the U.S. from the Human Rights Council, creates Nuclear Posture Review which increases nuclear warheads and loosens conditions in which they may be used, imposes zero tolerance policy at the border that increases the separation of children from their parents, and both he and Obama bombed the living fuck out of Syria. I had a good musician friend in Syria at the time and saw his home and instruments utterly destroyed. The citizens were devastated and many lives destroyed.

Edit: I can't remember which administration bombed my friend's home, instruments, and entire home-city to smithereens. It was around that 2016-2017 time period, but how does that help the citizens as a response to chemical warfare being used on them? How is it better? It wasn't military targets only being bombed but civilians. That was pure evil on both accounts.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

My impressions is that Trump's foreign policy that some like to rave about so much comes down to two principles:

Make the United States as dominant in the world as possible, even at risk of alienating allies.
Make the corporations as rich and dominant in the world as possible.

Corporations control U.S. politics. Trump is a corporate insider. Trump is the unequivocal insider.

 

[Stigmata]

Threadsplit the off-topic discussion about right-wing ladies to it's own thread. Now back to your regularly scheduled broadcasting.

 

[Firebird 8118]

Lol Stiggy thanks though for the FYI!

 

[Jaguar]

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[Virtual ghost]

The fact that early vote is approaching 2016 is rather incredible and it's not something I would expect to happen. I wouldn't assume it's bad just because it isn't happening everywhere.

As I said before, huge turnout in some swing states may indeed totally change the map from what the polls are expecting. However it still wouldn't hurt that PA has more early voting. Especially since winning back the whole blue wall kinda seals the deal. I mean NY started last the process of early voting on that map and they already gathered 28% of the whole 2016 in just two days. So if PA until election day comes from 34% to 60% that is still kinda ok.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Reuters: Americans plan widespread protests if Trump interferes with election

There's a site set up to organize nationally. I kinda wish there was more emphasis on keeping it peaceful, but at the same time that might lend veracity to propaganda about the protests not having been mostly peaceful up to this point. And I'm glad this hasn't been made into a huge deal, because maybe that'll help it fall off the extreme right's radar (giving them less chance to similarly organize efforts to incite violence within the protesting).

 

[Virtual ghost]

Texas is at 100.4% of the whole 2016 vote.

 

[Virtual ghost]

For the life of me I can't understand why they can't do election night a week after election day, when everything is counted and sorted out.

 

[Stigmata]

For the life of me I can't understand why they can't do election night a week after election day, when everything is counted and sorted out.

Your reign as 2020 forum's resident minister of information and data is nearly coming to an end. Where will you go from here, spend your days enjoying the retired life in floof threads? Move on to the big city lights of the Arts and Entertainment subforum where all the major movers and shakers reside? Will you seek reelection in 2021(covid will probably still be a big issue, so there's always that)?

 

[The Cat]

 

[Totenkindly]

I was kind of frustrated watching Trump's approval and disapproval ratings start to converge a bit on 538 over the last two weeks, then realized essentially this is probably just the actual national vote tally and the approval ratings syncing up. (And they have been fairly close now -- 8.9% lead by Biden, compared to about a 9.3% disapproval/approval gap currently.)

Basically people are picking one of the binary options (for or against) because they have to vote (unless they don't vote at all), and this is basically do they approve of Trump's performance or not? It all becomes the same number. If they approve of Trump, they are voting for Trump. If they disapprove, they are voting for Biden aside from a small percentage who is either not voting or voting third party.

edit: This kind of reinforces that the national vote is what is currently being polled, honestly, to me -- it's pretty spot-on.
It's just the issue is really, what are the swing states doing, due to electoral concerns.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Your reign as 2020 forum's resident minister of information and data is nearly coming to an end. Where will you go from here, spend your days enjoying the retired life in floof threads? Move on to the big city lights of the Arts and Entertainment subforum where all the major movers and shakers reside? Will you seek reelection in 2021(covid will probably still be a big issue, so there's always that)?

Well, for me 2021 is indeed an election year. So maybe I will indeed decide to run for some office.

The best part is that I am not sure that I am BSing.
I kinda don't really see myself as an average Joe as my life is moving forward. What would kinda be a waste of talent.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Your reign as 2020 forum's resident minister of information and data is nearly coming to an end. Where will you go from here, spend your days enjoying the retired life in floof threads? Move on to the big city lights of the Arts and Entertainment subforum where all the major movers and shakers reside? Will you seek reelection in 2021(covid will probably still be a big issue, so there's always that)?

He and Jonny should start the next 538

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Well, for me 2021 is indeed an election year. So maybe I will indeed decide to run for some office.

The best part is that I am not sure that I am BSing.
I kinda don't really see myself as an average Joe as my life is moving forward. What would kinda be a waste of talent.

It’s also an election year in some US states so I’m expecting some commentary from you on gubernatorial races next year

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

I was kind of frustrated watching Trump's approval and disapproval ratings start to converge a bit on 538 over the last two weeks, then realized essentially this is probably just the actual national vote tally and the approval ratings syncing up. (And they have been fairly close now -- 8.9% lead by Biden, compared to about a 9.3% disapproval/approval gap currently.)

Basically people are picking one of the binary options (for or against) because they have to vote (unless they don't vote at all), and this is basically do they approve of Trump's performance or not? It all becomes the same number. If they approve of Trump, they are voting for Trump. If they disapprove, they are voting for Biden aside from a small percentage who is either not voting or voting third party.

edit: This kind of reinforces that the national vote is what is currently being polled, honestly, to me -- it's pretty spot-on.
It's just the issue is really, what are the swing states doing, due to electoral concerns.

There’s people like me who have high disapproval for Biden and Harris but will still vote for them Tuesday. I haven’t held my nose this hard since 2004 and 2012.

 

[The Cat]

There’s people like me who have high disapproval for Biden and Harris but will still vote for them Tuesday.

yup. interesting times we find ourselves in.

 

[Stigmata]

I was kind of frustrated watching Trump's approval and disapproval ratings start to converge a bit on 538 over the last two weeks, then realized essentially this is probably just the actual national vote tally and the approval ratings syncing up. (And they have been fairly close now -- 8.9% lead by Biden, compared to about a 9.3% disapproval/approval gap currently.)

Basically people are picking one of the binary options (for or against) because they have to vote (unless they don't vote at all), and this is basically do they approve of Trump's performance or not? It all becomes the same number. If they approve of Trump, they are voting for Trump. If they disapprove, they are voting for Biden aside from a small percentage who is either not voting or voting third party.

edit: This kind of reinforces that the national vote is what is currently being polled, honestly, to me -- it's pretty spot-on.
It's just the issue is really, what are the swing states doing, due to electoral concerns.

While I'm not taking anything for granted or feeding too heavily onto the polling, I just can't think that this amount of record early voting and overall voting participation is due so that people can have more of the same of what they've had the last 4 years.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

yup. idnteresting times we find ourselves in.

“May you live in interesting times.”

 

[The Cat]

“May you live in interesting times.”

I'm part of a cursed bloodline man, these times are just typical fridays for me.

 

[Jaguar]

While I'm not taking anything for granted or feeding too heavily onto the polling, I just can't think that this amount of record early voting and overall voting participation is due so that people can have more of the same of what they've had the last 4 years.

Unless the ballots get to their destinations, the polling is worthless.

Swing-state voters face major mail delays in returning ballots on time, USPS data shows
The delays loom large over 28 states that require ballots to reach election officials by Election Day to be counted

Absentee ballots are taking longer to reach election offices in key swing states than in the rest of the country, new data shows, as the U.S. Postal Service rushes to deliver votes ahead of strict state deadlines.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/30/postal-service-absentee-ballots-2020-election/