2020 Democratic Party primary thread

[Tomb1]

More like Obama vs. Trump. Dementia Joe is riding the coattails of Obama...

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Illinois was on top of that shit. They were so efficient with the primary this year that it was over and decided before Tuesday. Stay classy, Illinois Democrats.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Seriously though. WATCH: Station Airs Results Graphics Day Before Election | Heavy.com

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
-JFK

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Bernie Sanders and the Myth of Low Youth Turnout in the Democratic Primary

Still a shitload of states left to go and Bernie hasn’t given up no matter how the media is spinning his decision to assess his campaign. If the tables were reversed and Biden were behind in delegates, his supporters and surrogates would lose their shit if people wanted him to drop out and concede at this point. Jim Clyburn can kiss my hairy ass.

It’s not over till it’s over. Drag it out. Fuck around and find out

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
-JFK

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Bernie Sanders and the Myth of Low Youth Turnout in the Democratic Primary

Still a shitload of states left to go and Bernie hasn’t given up no matter how the media is spinning his decision to assess his campaign.

It’s not over till it’s over. Drag it out. Fuck around and find out

That narrative tends to cause people to think that an alternative to a status quo is impossible, which might be why the misleading 13% figure. It has the effect of demoralization.

. 18-27 year olds are 16% of the registered voting population, and being 13% of election day voters is not bad at all.

So, that's almost the same as the share youth voters make of the registered voting population. This means that registered young voters are participating in primaries in significant numbers.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Yes. Also, why is no one questioning the Illinois results? This is fucking bullshit. I know we're in the middle of a pandemic but let's not let our democracy slip away because we were too preoccupied with washing our hands and finding toilet paper.

the results of Illinois need to be audited.

 

[The Cat]

florida jesus y'all what the fuck happened?

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Tulsi is Dead to me.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Tulsi is Dead to me.

I think that was a move in VP direction. Especially since she is probably one of better choices for Biden's VP, because she brings plenty of new people to the table and she is decent contrast to him. Plus as you probably already know this time VP will have much bigger role than usually (due to the age of the candidates). Therefore this doesn't necessarily have to be a miss on her part.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

I think that was a move in VP direction. Especially since she is probably one of better choices for Biden's VP, because she brings plenty of new people to the table and she is decent contrast to him. Plus as you probably already know this time VP will have much bigger role than usually (due to the age of the candidates). Therefore this doesn't necessarily have to be a miss on her part.

I think she was offered an ambassadorship or some other prestigious position involving foreign relations. I doubt they will offer her VP, as she still is seen as divisive by a lot of the dem establishment. They see her as a loose cannon and won't want her next in the line of succession. Ambassadorship is a nice carrot to dangle because she gets to do what she loves doing (meeting with foreign leaders, negotiating, travelling a lot) whilst effectively being defanged and removed as a real threat to the Democratic establishment. It's a win-win for both the DNC and Gabbard.

Here's my guesses at what Biden's been offering in return for endorsements:

Kamala Harris - Attorney General (most likely) or VP
Elizabeth Warren - will be offered Secretary of Education or VP if she endorses Biden. I think she's holding out in hopes of being VP nominee
Andrew Yang - Secretary of Labor OR Secretary of Commerce
Tulsi Gabbard - Ambassadorship, National Security Advisor (most likely), Secretary of State, or some other position heavily involved in foreign relations
Bloomberg - Federal Reserve Chairman
Pete Buttigieg - Chief of Staff?

Most of these people will serve about a year or two before resigning to springboard themselves for eventual runs for other offices. This is fairly common for early cabinet appointees to serve a year or two before then moving on to some other job or focusing on campaigning for office. A couple years in a presidential cabinet is basically a way to pad resumes and get "experience" they can tout when they later run for elected office--Buttigieg especially needs this to fight off criticisms of lack of experience when he runs for President again (which he likely will in 2028 OR 2024 if Biden decides to step down due to age).

 

[Tomb1]

dementia Joe would be off his rocker not to first offer Hillary the VP spot...she got the popular vote four years ago, is light years smarter and more experienced than Warren or Harris, and would make empty-shell Pence look like a fifth grader in debate. Short of naming Michelle Obama as his VP, Biden-Hillary ticket maximizes ultimate obama-era nostalgia...which has been Biden's gameplan from the beginning (ride barack's coat-tails).

 

[Nicodemus]

Kamala Harris - Attorney General (most likely) or VP
Elizabeth Warren - will be offered Secretary of Education or VP if she endorses Biden. I think she's holding out in hopes of being VP nominee
Andrew Yang - Secretary of Labor OR Secretary of Commerce
Tulsi Gabbard - Ambassadorship, National Security Advisor (most likely), Secretary of State, or some other position heavily involved in foreign relations
Bloomberg - Federal Reserve Chairman
Pete Buttigieg - Chief of Staff?

Why would he offer Gabbard anything? Nobody voted for her. Her endorsement is practically worthless.

I like Buttigieg for chief of staff, but I think he would rather have a cabinet position. Bloomberg as chairman of the Fed would be patently insane.

dementia Joe would be off his rocker not to first offer Hillary the VP spot...she got the popular vote four years ago, is light years smarter and more experienced than Warren or Harris, and would make empty-shell Pence look like a fifth grader in debate. Short of naming Michelle Obama as his VP, Biden-Hillary ticket maximizes ultimate obama-era nostalgia...which has been Biden's gameplan from the beginning (ride barack's coat-tails).

But it would energize the GOP base like nothing else could at this point. Trump could essentially run the same race as in 2016. To be sure, if Biden and Hillary ran and Democratic voters actually went to the polls, whatever momentum the GOP has would be irrelevant, as Democrats outnumber Republicans in absolute numbers.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Short of naming Michelle Obama as his VP, Biden-Hillary ticket maximizes ultimate obama-era nostalgia...which has been Biden's gameplan from the beginning (ride barack's coat-tails).

Please no. I don't think they could make me vote for Hillary a second time. I'd probably protest, out of the revulsion of horror of being stuck in an endless loop of crappiness.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I think she was offered an ambassadorship or some other prestigious position involving foreign relations. I doubt they will offer her VP, as she still is seen as divisive by a lot of the dem establishment. They see her as a loose cannon and won't want her next in the line of succession. Ambassadorship is a nice carrot to dangle because she gets to do what she loves doing (meeting with foreign leaders, negotiating, travelling a lot) whilst effectively being defanged and removed as a real threat to the Democratic establishment. It's a win-win for both the DNC and Gabbard.

Well VP would probably be a jackpot for her and therefore she will probably only get some lower position for this. UN or something international like that. (but ambitions are high as it seems)



However many anti-establishment people around the country will become quite frustrated in the near future, as the party starts to consolidate around Biden. Even Bernie will eventually do it directly or indirectly. This is how 2 party system works.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Any ideas or news how this process is going to end due to current crisis ?

 

[Maou]

Any ideas or news how this process is going to end due to current crisis ?

Trump 2020, because Democrats rather vote against stimulus, that help doctors and nurses, the american people, the economy and buisnesses. All over carbon emissions, and green tax relief in a pandemic crisis.

 

[Nicodemus]

Trump 2020, because Democrats rather vote against stimulus, that help doctors and nurses, the american people, the economy and buisnesses. All over carbon emissions, and green tax relief in a pandemic crisis.

Is that what conservative fake news are reporting?

 

[Maou]

Is that what conservative fake news are reporting?

The senate said that. Even if he is a Republican, he laid out exactly what they wanted in the bill. They didnt get it, so they voted no (presumably). They much rather "Dust off" the Green new deal, than help Americans during this crisis. Where are their priorities, when they vote against the bill they helped write? It makes zero sense, and I blame Pelosi for flying back to tell them not to vote for it at the last second.

 

[Jaguar]

Is that what conservative fake news are reporting?

There's more to it:

Student debt emerges as sticking point in stimulus debate - POLITICO

Also, Pelosi intervened at the last minute to block the Senate’s emergency bill to start her own bill containing so many non-crisis related Democratic campaign agenda items, I don't have the time to post all of them. A demand for same-day voter registration will definitely help save lives and those financially devastated by Covid19.

 

[Tellenbach]

We should probably postpone the election for 4 years; you don't want people to get sick at the ballot box.