Socio-Sexual Hierarchy Personality Test (for males only)

[violet_crown]

So what tier is for girls who just don't give a damn, and go their own way, pursue their own interests, and find their own friends outside of schol?

...is she hot?

 

[Mal12345]

So what tier is for girls who just don't give a damn, and go their own way, pursue their own interests, and find their own friends outside of schol?

...Or any of a number of alternate social scenarios. It's not a tier, but some other category depending on what group of friends the girl has joined (dopers, for example).

 

[Coriolis]

...Or any of a number of alternate social scenarios. It's not a tier, but some other category depending on what group of friends the girl has joined (dopers, for example).

The debate team, the local Beethoven society, a neighbor family whose child was too disabled to attend regular school.

...is she hot?

No. She was me.

 

[violet_crown]

No. She was me.

I was being glib, but real talk. I was having kind of an aside about this thread a little earlier, and I will let you in on a little secret, Cors.

All of this--it is all for us. Do you know why there's no women in this pyramid? Because the whole damn thing is a monument constructed for you and me. We're not in the pyramid because the whole edifice is laid at our feet.

Not just this. All the PUA nonsense, Wall Street, most wars, Maseratis, the Lunar Landing and Super Bowl Sunday. You know why they don't want us to be a part of it? Because then they'd have no one to do any of these things for. There would literally be zero point. If most dudes could reasonably expect to get laid, living in a dirty cardboard box down by the river, they would. And never work a minute harder than that.

That's why they don't want us to do anything. Because if we do things, too, and recognize how either a) inane or b) reasonably attainable most of the shit they do to impress us actually is, it fucks up everything. It destroys the whole social order. They may not have what it takes. We may not need them. It's literally the end of men, etc.

Either way, my point is that--between us gals--you're lovely, you're accomplished and likely scare most of these idiots shitless (and with good cause)! These things are always a lot more fun when you recognize the power you have in these kinds of situations. It's definitely not the most enlightened point of view I'm espousing and by no means anything close to feminist, but it's a perspective whose validity I'm coming to increasingly realize.

 

[/DG/]

What the hell is this thread even and why has it gone on for seven pages?

I feel like the OP is just bullshitting everyone. Surely no one in their right mind would take this test so seriously. He's fucking with you guys.

 

[1487610420]

I was being glib, but real talk. I was having kind of an aside about this thread a little earlier, and I will let you in on a little secret, Cors.

All of this--it is all for us. Do you know why there's no women in this pyramid? Because the whole damn thing is a monument constructed for you and me. We're not in the pyramid because the whole edifice is laid at our feet.

Not just this. All the PUA nonsense, Wall Street, most wars, Maseratis, the Lunar Landing and Super Bowl Sunday. You know why they don't want us to be a part of it? Because then they'd have no one to do any of these things for. There would literally be zero point. If most dudes could reasonably expect to get laid, living in a dirty cardboard box down by the river, they would. And never work a minute harder than that.

That's why they don't want us to do anything. Because if we do things, too, and recognize how either a) inane or b) reasonably attainable most of the shit they do to impress us actually is, it fucks up everything. It destroys the whole social order. They may not have what it takes. We may not need them. It's literally the end of men, etc.

Either way, my point is that--between us gals--you're lovely, you're accomplished and likely scare most of these idiots shitless (and with good cause)! These things are always a lot more fun when you recognize the power you have in these kinds of situations. It's definitely not the most enlightened point of view I'm espousing and by no means anything close to feminist, but it's a perspective whose validity I'm coming to increasingly realize.

Aka pusssayyyyy!

 

[Coriolis]

All of this--it is all for us. Do you know why there's no women in this pyramid? Because the whole damn thing is a monument constructed for you and me. We're not in the pyramid because the whole edifice is laid at our feet.

Not just this. All the PUA nonsense, Wall Street, most wars, Maseratis, the Lunar Landing and Super Bowl Sunday. You know why they don't want us to be a part of it? Because then they'd have no one to do any of these things for. There would literally be zero point. If most dudes could reasonably expect to get laid, living in a dirty cardboard box down by the river, they would. And never work a minute harder than that.

That's why they don't want us to do anything. Because if we do things, too, and recognize how either a) inane or b) reasonably attainable most of the shit they do to impress us actually is, it fucks up everything. It destroys the whole social order. They may not have what it takes. We may not need them. It's literally the end of men, etc.

Either way, my point is that--between us gals--you're lovely, you're accomplished and likely scare most of these idiots shitless (and with good cause)! These things are always a lot more fun when you recognize the power you have in these kinds of situations. It's definitely not the most enlightened point of view I'm espousing and by no means anything close to feminist, but it's a perspective whose validity I'm coming to increasingly realize.

So what do we get by completely ignoring such ridiculous shenanigans? I always have. Seems like we need to be a bit more demanding, and selective. I am, but then I see scores of women who only enable this sort of behavior.

It's time men figured out already that, barring the few moments necessary to procreate, we don't need them. We want them, and therein lies all the difference.

 

[Galaxy Gazer]

In that respect, I'm just as readily labeled a "cis-hetero" as I am "Gamma" or "Sigma." The former is a label forced on me by the LGBTQ tribe, the latter forced on my by the other tribe. They've all stereotyped me, sometimes against my will, into a category. Doing something against my will is self-esteem-lowering. It's true, I don't have any choice regarding my nature. However, these labels are not my nature.

But, more importantly, they are socially-defined labels seen through various social lenses. The LGBTQ tribe uses its own social lens and a categorization system that is just as valid, on its own terms, as that of the other tribe. Notice that there is competition between tribal labeling systems, as when the resident feminist in this thread immediately rejected the socio-sexual hierarchy of Alpha-Omega males as "garbage" because it excludes the female gender and, probably, because she deems it a product of "rape culture patriarchy" which is "bad" rather than feminist matriarchy culture which is "good."

Self-esteem, while a personal thing, is often defined by one's cultural milieu. In either case above, I am not a perfect specimen, I am not Alpha, and I am not LGBTQ. I am somewhere lower on the male hetero hierarchy. Nothing special, and pretty "lame" from either perspective. So yes, these labels are self-esteem-defining. To be a cis-hetero male in today's society is on the same level as being Black in 19th-century Southern US society. The only advantage to being a Sigma male is that I can thumb my nose at the Alphas sometimes.



I'll have to watch that later.

Well, the difference is that you are cisgender and heterosexual, by definition. If you're only attracted to the opposite gender, you're heterosexual. If your gender identity matches your biological sex, you're cisgender. What about male and female? Are those labels too? What about Asian, Hispanic, black, and white? Apparently anything that puts people into categories in any way is a harmful stereotype being forced on everyone so I guess we'd better get rid of gender, race, and ethnicity. What about blonde? Light-skinned? Tall? Atheist? Catholic? These must be horrible labels too.

The social classes in this quiz are entirely subjective. They have no scientific or factual basis. You can't compare being classed as a straight person to being classed as a sigma. One is correct regardless of how anyone feels about it; the other is based solely on opinions. You could get alpha or delta on a different quiz, but that wouldn't mean you're in two social tiers at the same time.

 

[Galaxy Gazer]

So what tier is for girls who just don't give a damn, and go their own way, pursue their own interests, and find their own friends outside of schol?

That sounds like gamma/sigma, delta, and omega mixed into one. I'm not sure how that would translate into a tier system; probably just the bottom half. It just goes to show how silly this stuff is.

 

[Betty Blue]

I coulda swore it was mockery, not just repetition. *FAIL*

Honestly I'm not the best at picking up on trolling, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are trolling rather than acting like a complete moron-though the two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

So what tier is for girls who just don't give a damn, and go their own way, pursue their own interests, and find their own friends outside of schol?

T'Pol tier

 

[Cellmold]

More sigma....

Vin Dipshit!

 

[Bush]

More sigma....

Vin Dipshit!

Everybody used to be super stoked on him until they used his picture on one of the results of an online social tier quiz

So what tier is for girls who just don't give a damn, and go their own way, pursue their own interests, and find their own friends outside of schol?

Beta, but an unhealthy one stuck in a PUA-PLATE function loop.

 

[Pionart]

Alphas and Sigmas are a bunch of bloody shafters if you ask me.

 

[Ivy]

So, I avoided sororities in college only to later be sorted against my will into another stupid hierarchical social system, the perpetuators of which try to make seem more legit by using Greek letters to name the levels. Fuck a bunch of that.

 

[violet_crown]

So what do we get by completely ignoring such ridiculous shenanigans? I always have. Seems like we need to be a bit more demanding, and selective. I am, but then I see scores of women who only enable this sort of behavior.

It's time men figured out already that, barring the few moments necessary to procreate, we don't need them. We want them, and therein lies all the difference.

I haven't quite figured it out, honestly. I think those very basic sentiments are a reality to contend with, though, especially if we really want things to be different. If we're espousing high minded rhetoric for a seat at the table and they're looking at each other like, "There girls are missing the point entirely."

But I think the mentality I was describing is very real and explains a lot of anger around debates like reproductive rights. Like, why should a man have this strong of an opinion on birth control? I certainly don't think this hard about Viagra. It's to me the sexual equivalent of dog whistle politics. All the discrimination and stereotypes are so much more about things they wish were true than anything I think men actually believe. Maybe some really believe it, but I think most who spout that kind of nonsense recognize it as a tool for disempowerment. Sexism is a perversion of how men and women should relate to each other. It's rage rooted in fear. It's pathetic. It's kind of darkly hilarious.

I have a very weird way of dealing with these things. I remember my family went to Mississippi for a funeral when my sis and I were quite young. My family had a pretty nice car and my dad got pulled over. He wasn't speeding. Wasn't doing anything illegal. Just driving a nice car in the wrong part of the country. Either way, the police officer was like literally everything you could ask for in a racist Southern police officer: the accent, patronizing menace, reflective sunglasses--the whole nine. The guy did his thing and wrote my dad up. My parents were clearly unsettled by the whole encounter, but my sis and I, we took one look at each other and just burst out laughing. The whole experience was like...the most perfectly racist thing we'd ever seen. The little man with his little sunglasses looking like the first scene in some civil rights movie. It was just so delightfully quaint. And eventually, my parents laughed, too. Because who the fuck cared.

Sexism's repercussions are real, but the day to day stuff only works if you believe that it's you who has something to prove. Remembering the real score helps me to discern when a fight is worth having and when I can more or less disregard the bullshit as such.

TL;DR - "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Old hardware. Newer software. The hardware hasn't caught up with the software.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

I haven't quite figured it out, honestly. I think those very basic sentiments are a reality to contend with, though, especially if we really want things to be different. If we're espousing high minded rhetoric for a seat at the table and they're looking at each other like, "There girls are missing the point entirely."

But I think the mentality I was describing is very real and explains a lot of anger around debates like reproductive rights. Like, why should a man have this strong of an opinion on birth control? I certainly don't think this hard about Viagra. It's to me the sexual equivalent of dog whistle politics. All the discrimination and stereotypes are so much more about things they wish were true than anything I think men actually believe. Maybe some really believe it, but I think most who spout that kind of nonsense recognize it as a tool for disempowerment. Sexism is a perversion of how men and women should relate to each other. It's rage rooted in fear. It's pathetic. It's kind of darkly hilarious.

I have a very weird way of dealing with these things. I remember my family went to Mississippi for a funeral when my sis and I were quite young. My family had a pretty nice car and my dad got pulled over. He wasn't speeding. Wasn't doing anything illegal. Just driving a nice car in the wrong part of the country. Either way, the police officer was like literally everything you could ask for in a racist Southern police officer: the accent, patronizing menace, reflective sunglasses--the whole nine. The guy did his thing and wrote my dad up. My parents were clearly unsettled by the whole encounter, but my sis and I, we took one look at each other and just burst out laughing. The whole experience was like...the most perfectly racist thing we'd ever seen. The little man with his little sunglasses looking like the first scene in some civil rights movie. It was just so delightfully quaint. And eventually, my parents laughed, too. Because who the fuck cared.

Sexism's repercussions are real, but the day to day stuff only works if you believe that it's you who has something to prove. Remembering the real score helps me to discern when a fight is worth having and when I can more or less disregard the bullshit as such.

I so wish your dad could've gotten away with Steve Buscemi's speech to that parking deck attendant in Fargo. Obviously completely different context and circumstances, but still.

"ruler of your own fucking gate.."

 

[violet_crown]

I so wish your dad could've gotten away with Steve Buscemi's speech to that parking deck attendant in Fargo. Obviously completely different context and circumstances, but still.

"ruler of your own fucking gate.."

Daily Show actually did a bit years about South Africa that the whole encounter made me think of. It was like, "Wow we really don't get this vintage back home anymore."

 

[Mal12345]

Well, the difference is that you are cisgender and heterosexual, by definition. If you're only attracted to the opposite gender, you're heterosexual. If your gender identity matches your biological sex, you're cisgender. What about male and female? Are those labels too? What about Asian, Hispanic, black, and white? Apparently anything that puts people into categories in any way is a harmful stereotype being forced on everyone so I guess we'd better get rid of gender, race, and ethnicity. What about blonde? Light-skinned? Tall? Atheist? Catholic? These must be horrible labels too.

The social classes in this quiz are entirely subjective. They have no scientific or factual basis. You can't compare being classed as a straight person to being classed as a sigma. One is correct regardless of how anyone feels about it; the other is based solely on opinions. You could get alpha or delta on a different quiz, but that wouldn't mean you're in two social tiers at the same time.

Sigma is the lone wolf. There can't be an Alpha lone wolf because they are defined by whether or not the male plays by the social rules. Lambda, on the other hand, doesn't know and doesn't care. I could identify with Gamma or Sigma descriptions, although the Gamma seems a bit harsh for me. But which social class do I belong to in reality? I don't hang with Gammas.