[sp] Fictional Sp/Sx Characters

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Wyatt Earp (Tombstone) INFP, INFJ or ISTJ 1w9
Bill (Kill Bill) INTP 5w4 or 8w9
Budd (Kill Bill) ISTP 8w9
Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars) INTJ 8w9
Light Yagami (Death Note) INTJ 1w9
Gordon Gekko (Wall Street) ENTJ 8w7
Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars) ISTJ 1w9 or 6w5
Polly (Along Came Polly) ENFP 7w6

Edit: :doh:

how could I forget Gambit? he's one of the most bad ass Sp/Sxs out there. ENFP or ISTP 7w8

Catharsis · Jul 31, 2011

I don't think Light Yagami shows enough desire to connect with someone else to be anything than Sx last. Sp often wants to extend their own needs of safety to others, either to a broader community (So) or intimates (Sx), and Light wishes to create a safe environment (by his standards) for the people inhabiting this world. Sp/So for him.

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Catharsis said:
I don't think Light Yagami shows enough desire to connect with someone else to be anything than Sx last. Sp often wants to extend their own needs of safety to others, either to a broader community (So) or intimates (Sx), and Light wishes to create a safe environment (by his standards) for the people inhabiting this world. Sp/So for him.

Light is not social at all.

Catharsis · Jul 31, 2011

Elfboy said:
Light is not social at all.

Light is not Sx at all.

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

possibly Sp/Sx
Count Dooku (Star Wars) IN?J 1w9, 5w4 or 8w9
Light Yagami (Death Note) INTJ 1w9
Darth Maul (Star Wars) ISTP ???
Aoshi Shinomori (Rurouni Kenshin) ISTJ 3w4

Catharsis · Jul 31, 2011

Light does not care about personal connection at all, not even with the girl who was both his intellectual match and a supporter of Kira. Sp/Sx would have a strictly personal outlook on life, while Light considers society a higher priority than intimacy or connection. He's trying to create a new societal order that is "safe". Where do you see any Sx?

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Catharsis said:
Light does not care about personal connection at all, not even with the girl who was both his intellectual match and a supporter of Kira. Sp/Sx would have a strictly personal outlook on life, while Light considers society a higher priority than intimacy or connection. He's trying to create a new societal order that is "safe". Where do you see any Sx?

he wanted no personal connection with Misa because she was
1) a bitch
2) using her for his plans, he couldn't afford to get attached to her
3) annoying
4) intellectual match? are you kidding me. she was nothing but a shallow, naive little girl.

Light's Sx side comes out much more indirectly. his movements, the way he talks, the way he dresses all have subtle hints of Sx in him. Sp/Sx types exhibit intimacy with others only after they "latch" onto someone they deem worthy. no one in that show was worthy of his affection save maybe Takada (she was my favorite character, I wish he killed Misa instead of her) so his Sx remained indirect

Speed Gavroche · Jul 31, 2011

Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars) Sx/So ENFJ
Light Yagami (Death Note) Sp/So
Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars) ISTJ Social 1w9, or at least Sp/So

Gambit is Sp/Sx, yeah, ESTP 7w8.

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Speed Gavroche said:
Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars) Sx/So ENFJ
Light Yagami (Death Note) Sp/So
Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars) ISTJ Social 1w9, or at least Sp/So

Gambit is Sp/Sx, yeah, ESTP 7w8.

Light: possibly (I'm still not convinced)
Qui-Gon: hell no. He might be Sx/Sp, but there is no way in hell he is an Fe dom.
- he is not extroverted
- he uses lots of Te
- no Fe. he uses Fi. he does what he thinks is right and has no place for useless rules, traditions or social protocol
- ENFJ 8w9 Sx/So is exactly the same type as Martin Luther King. they are not alike at all
- for similar reasons to not having Fe, I believe he is So last
Obi-wan: actually, Sp/So sounds right

Gambit: I think he's ISTP

Speed Gavroche · Jul 31, 2011

Elfboy said:
Qui-Gon: hell no. He might be Sx/Sp, but there is no way in hell he is an Fe dom.
- he is not extroverted
- he uses lots of Te
- no Fe. he uses Fi. he does what he thinks is right and has no place for useless rules, traditions or social protocol
- ENFJ 8w9 Sx/So is exactly the same type as Martin Luther King. they are not alike at all
- for similar reasons to not having Fe, I believe he is So last

He is extrovert, he love interact with people and don't feel drained by social contact in any way, at the contrary, he's a smooth and empatic man who is exrtremely good at connect with people emotionally. He don't care about logic and rationality in the way that INTJ do. Fe challenges and impose values, don't necessarly follow rules, especially when combined with Ni. He don't care at all about self-preservation, he's actually reckless and don't care about being reasonable. He's more similar with MLK that you seem to imagine, also some other 8w9 Sx/So are very similar to him (except that as a jedi, Qui-Gon don't fuck).

Gambit is awesome, so, I can of course see him as an ISTP :biggrin:

, but he's more in the smooth operator role even if he's more quiet than most ESTPs, in comparaison with Logan, a true ISTP, Logan is more cerebral, even if as 7w8 Sx/Sp, he's more intense.

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Speed Gavroche said:
He is extrovert, he love interact with people and don't feel drained by social contact in any way, at the contrary, he's a smooth and empatic man who is exrtremely good at connect with people emotionally. He don't care about logic and rationality in the way that INTJ do. Fe challenges and impose values, don't necessarly follow rules, especially when combined with Ni. He don't care at all about self-preservation, he's actually reckless and don't care about being reasonable. He's more similar with MLK that you seem to imagine, also some other 8w9 Sx/So are very similar to him (except that as a jedi, Qui-Gon don't fuck).

the only people I see him enjoying interacting with are Anakin and Obi-Wan. everyone else he interacts with is more for business purposes. you have swayed me to Sx/Sp (particularly with Anakin, who he seems quite fond of, probably because they're both Sx/Sp 8s and INTJs usually love ENFPs

). I am also going to disagree about not caring about self preservation or rationality. he is cautious, patient, well planned and always makes sure that his plans will keep safe those he is close to. Sx/So is more impulsive and their energy is much more forward and unrestrained
PS: in addition to the movies, I've also read most of the Jedi Apprentice series by Jude Watson which is a canon book series about the adventures of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan before Episode I. it is clear in this series that Qui-Gon is not ENFJ (though you might be able to pursuade me to INFJ) and you see a little more of Obi-Wan's Sx/intimate side (one reason why I can't decide between Sp/So and Sp/Sx, Obi-Wan is also like Qui-Gon in the sense that he forms close one to one bonds with his colleagues. he cries several times in the series when someone he cares about is hurt or dies, like in the movies how he cries for Qui-Gon and Anakin)

Catharsis · Jul 31, 2011

Elfboy said:
he wanted no personal connection with Misa because she was
1) a bitch
2) using her for his plans, he couldn't afford to get attached to her
3) annoying
4) intellectual match? are you kidding me. she was nothing but a shallow, naive little girl.

Light's Sx side comes out much more indirectly. his movements, the way he talks, the way he dresses all have subtle hints of Sx in him. Sp/Sx types exhibit intimacy with others only after they "latch" onto someone they deem worthy. no one in that show was worthy of his affection save maybe Takada (she was my favorite character, I wish he killed Misa instead of her) so his Sx remained indirect

I'm not talking about Misa, but that news reporter. And he moves, speaks and dresses only the way they chose to animate him, probably without the enneagram in mind, so I don't think that is a legitimate way to type a fictional character. He is not interested in anyone but society at large.

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Catharsis said:
I'm not talking about Misa, but that news reporter. And he moves, speaks and dresses only the way they chose to animate him, probably without the enneagram in mind, so I don't think that is a legitimate way to type a fictional character. He is not interested in anyone but society at large.

oh, in that case, point taken (I was confused as to how you could think Misa to be Light's equal lol)

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Speed Gavroche said:
He is extrovert, he love interact with people and don't feel drained by social contact in any way, at the contrary, he's a smooth and empatic man who is exrtremely good at connect with people emotionally. He don't care about logic and rationality in the way that INTJ do. Fe challenges and impose values, don't necessarly follow rules, especially when combined with Ni. He don't care at all about self-preservation, he's actually reckless and don't care about being reasonable. He's more similar with MLK that you seem to imagine, also some other 8w9 Sx/So are very similar to him (except that as a jedi, Qui-Gon don't fuck).

Gambit is awesome, so, I can of course see him as an ISTP , but he's more in the smooth operator role even if he's more quiet than most ESTPs, in comparaison with Logan, a true ISTP, Logan is more cerebral, even if as 7w8 Sx/Sp, he's more intense.

ESTPs are more dynamic and out there; Gambit is more subtle and graceful like an ISTP. he doesn't have the excessive energy of an ESTP.

Z Buck McFate · Jul 31, 2011

Han Solo?

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Z Buck McFate said:
Han Solo?

nice, I was just thinking that :hifive:

ISTP 8w7 Sp/Sx

Speed Gavroche · Jul 31, 2011

Speed Gavroche · Jul 31, 2011

Elfboy said:
the only people I see him enjoying interacting with are Anakin and Obi-Wan.everyone else he interacts with is more for business purposes

Your forget the council, Shmi, Amidala, Watoo, he's never buisnesslike, he's playful, independant and connecting. See the description of Sx/So that I post and you'll see that it fits.

I am also going to disagree about not caring about self preservation or rationality. he is cautious, patient, well planned and always makes sure that his plans will keep safe those he is close to. Sx/So is more impulsive and their energy is much more forward and unrestrained

Ha ha, he's completely reckless and risk taker, his impulsivity he pretty visible in during the fight against Darth Maul, in comparaison the the cautious Obi-Wan, a true Sp/

it is clear in this series that Qui-Gon is not ENFJ

I've read some stories of the EU too, he's not INTJ

Elfboy · Jul 31, 2011

Speed Gavroche said:
Sp/Sx characters

(1w9)Pat Buchanan (24)
(1w9)Mister Freeze http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4SvoTQFq1o
(1w2)Oscar Grouch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Cdqx1qFX8
(1w2)Inspector Poirot
(2w1)Sara Tancredi(Prison Break) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWG__06pFRA
(2w3)Jackie Burkhart (That 70s Show) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CuWKEDOjOY
(3w2) Dexter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej8-Rqo-VT4
(4w3) Brian(Family Guy) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6Asc9Ip2ph4
(4w5) Edward Scissorhands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq2PPFUhfpo
(5w4) Stephen Daedalous
(5w6) Scarecrow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owaMoWmD2vE
(6w5) Alexander Mahone (Prison Break) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IRVIbf-5nk
(6w5) Benjamin Miles "C-Note" Franklin (Prison Break) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMRxRPLHHVA
(6w7) Veronica Donovan (Prison Break) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKYm_B8tUxY
(6w7) George Costanza (Seinfield) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gjxnxKmaVQ
(6w7) Rachel( Friends) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z3eHXkK9SU
(6w7) Robin (DC Universe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPszLUHzgAM
(6w7) Edmund (Narnia)
(7w6) Woody Woodpecker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeldv48RGv8
(7w8) Jimbo (Simpsons) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7wYECUvLE0
(7w8) Crocodile Dundee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOcSTo2-7zQ&feature=related
(7w8) Gambit (Xmen) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0f3vp5FZPU
(8w7) Batman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCO9oZdVJws
(8w7) Han Solo (Star Wars) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YbFnkZwZk
(8w9) Jack Bauer (24) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngzbKjAdDIY&feature=fvst
(8w9) Lincol Burrows (Prison Break) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc9CHmSXdmM
(9w8) Joey (Friends) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39-IVFxdNHA
(9w1) Amita Ramanujan (Numbers) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73m2CQzp_Qc

You are a true 7w8 Sp/Sx IMO.

I think so too

I wear a 3w4 mask so people take me more seriously and because I have soft spot for beauty and grace, but my real personality is much more "AGGHH!" :devil:

Speed Gavroche · Jul 31, 2011

Elfboy said:
I think so too I wear a 3w4 mask so people take me more seriously and because I have soft spot for beauty and grace, but my real personality is much more "AGGHH!"

Yiou are a narcissit and the two narcissic enneatypes are 3 and 7. But you are not especially competitive and not workaholic at all, rather dilletant.

You are a gay version of Gambit, seeing how he is with Rogue, I complain a bit thon one who is your target. :laugh:

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