Cypocalypse
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This is just an observation I wanna clarify, and I would like to know your thoughts on this.
I'm an INTP and I'm a Filipino. In the Philippines, where the culture is more social than individualistic (Imagine Oriental collectivism minus the perfectionist attitude), looking for an INTP is pretty damn difficult. I've only met very few of them (I guess they're xNTP).
Attending a Unitarian Universalist congregation here (which is a very xNxP structured congregation) made me encounter a more of them, though sometimes it's hard to tell whether they're F or T dominant. The only thing I can assure myself is that they're all P).
Most of the UU members in my congregation are middle class to upper class people, (as well as the other non-UU INTP people I've met elsewhere).
Here in the Philippines where social stature is a big issue, observing the stature of my peers would be, I guess, a bit understandable. I'm trying to see if this observation has a bearing. My hypothesis is....
INTPs could have came from a very J oriented family set-up where the P function acts as a counter measure to J, otherwise if all family members would be J, then that would lead into a lot of confrontation. They're probably the children of established (meaning, having a good stature) J parents.
These INTPs may not have a drive for achievement (TJ drive) because the financial work has already been done for them (that is, they're de facto affluent). They need not be popular (SF drive) because their sheer affinity to the family is already enough of an affirmation. Basically, they don't even need attention because their J fuctioned parents have them well monitored.
What they need is individuality, that's why they've strengthened the P function to perceive ways of looking for a definitive niche outside of the J cage, where the Ne is the explorer function.
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There are two NTJs that I know. One is an ENTJ and the other one seems to be an INFJ with a very strong Te. Both of them have stories of living a poor childhood hence the stronger drive to be financially affluent.
Do you think this has validity? That is, one will gun for something that he doesn't have originally? Does that imply that INTPs in general live in a situation where most of the basics are already met hence they enjoy exploring knowledge for knowledge's sake?
I'm an INTP and I'm a Filipino. In the Philippines, where the culture is more social than individualistic (Imagine Oriental collectivism minus the perfectionist attitude), looking for an INTP is pretty damn difficult. I've only met very few of them (I guess they're xNTP).
Attending a Unitarian Universalist congregation here (which is a very xNxP structured congregation) made me encounter a more of them, though sometimes it's hard to tell whether they're F or T dominant. The only thing I can assure myself is that they're all P).
Most of the UU members in my congregation are middle class to upper class people, (as well as the other non-UU INTP people I've met elsewhere).
Here in the Philippines where social stature is a big issue, observing the stature of my peers would be, I guess, a bit understandable. I'm trying to see if this observation has a bearing. My hypothesis is....
INTPs could have came from a very J oriented family set-up where the P function acts as a counter measure to J, otherwise if all family members would be J, then that would lead into a lot of confrontation. They're probably the children of established (meaning, having a good stature) J parents.
These INTPs may not have a drive for achievement (TJ drive) because the financial work has already been done for them (that is, they're de facto affluent). They need not be popular (SF drive) because their sheer affinity to the family is already enough of an affirmation. Basically, they don't even need attention because their J fuctioned parents have them well monitored.
What they need is individuality, that's why they've strengthened the P function to perceive ways of looking for a definitive niche outside of the J cage, where the Ne is the explorer function.
_______________
There are two NTJs that I know. One is an ENTJ and the other one seems to be an INFJ with a very strong Te. Both of them have stories of living a poor childhood hence the stronger drive to be financially affluent.
Do you think this has validity? That is, one will gun for something that he doesn't have originally? Does that imply that INTPs in general live in a situation where most of the basics are already met hence they enjoy exploring knowledge for knowledge's sake?