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    Wages are shooting up to around 15$ an hour in Ohio at jobs like gas stations. Which in turn is increasing job wages across the board at higher skills like my job. I will not only get a promotion, but might get double the pay wage I expected. I am quite optimistic.

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    Lower regulations and taxes means more jobs and more jobs mean more competition for labor which drives up wages. It's just common sense; unfortunately, we have a political party that feeds off of misery and desperation and seeks to destroy job opportunities with regulations, taxes, and raising the minimum wage.

    Some people think the Democrats are just stupid and economically illiterate, but it's really worse than that; these are evil people who seek to destroy lives for power and position.
    The reason why socialism doesn't work is because it attracts the least rational people. It selects for emotionally unstable people who just want to feel good, who want a tingle up the leg instead of sound policies that actually benefit people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Lower regulations and taxes means more jobs and more jobs mean more competition for labor which drives up wages. It's just common sense; unfortunately, we have a political party that feeds off of misery and desperation and seeks to destroy job opportunities with regulations, taxes, and raising the minimum wage.
    But doesn't the government also spend that tax money and create jobs as well? Government contracts are big $$ and create some nice technical/engineering jobs, especially when it comes to defense spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ??? View Post
    But doesn't the government also spend that tax money and create jobs as well? Government contracts are big $$ and create some nice technical/engineering jobs, especially when it comes to defense spending.
    Oh definitely. I believe, IIRC, more than half of the federal budget is defense spending. Lots of people in traditionally Republican states like Montana, where there's a lot of federal land, also actually depend on money from the federal government, both directly and indirectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ??? View Post
    But doesn't the government also spend that tax money and create jobs as well? Government contracts are big $$ and create some nice technical/engineering jobs, especially when it comes to defense spending.
    If you do it right, the private companies are the ones creating jobs so the government doesn't have to. And the increase in private industries, means more taxes being paid, even if the rate is low. You actually don't want more government jobs.

    And I agree the defense spending is too high, but then whenever anyone tries to stop. People scream we are abandoning allies. USA literally maintains peace in like 3/4ths of the planet. It is gonna be expensive.
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    @Sung Jin-Woo

    But the thing about defense spending is that the government bids contracts, so companies have to compete and innovate. So they basically are private companies, but their focus is on warfare technology/innovation. In terms of work or jobs, they would be theoretically the same difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ??? View Post
    @Sung Jin-Woo

    But the thing about defense spending is that the government bids contracts, so companies have to compete and innovate. So they basically are private companies, but their focus is on warfare technology/innovation. In terms of work or jobs, they would be theoretically the same difference.
    Only if contracting. I'm referring to government institutions being a waste of tax money due to inflated beuacratic bullshit that is 20 years behind everyone else. Whenever the government makes its own, it can hardly compete with private companies, and is ten times the cost.

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    Oh okay.
    I think I know what you mean there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ???
    But doesn't the government also spend that tax money and create jobs as well? Government contracts are big $$ and create some nice technical/engineering jobs, especially when it comes to defense spending.
    For those things that the government does well, such as national security, sure, it's ok to tax and spend money. For everything else, government wastes about half the money it collects. Medicare wastes $100 billion each year; this is considered acceptable because it makes Democrats feel good, but it's really a stupid idea.

    Yes, the government creates jobs from tax money but most of the people employed are just paper pushers who make everyone's lives a little less pleasant and these people would probably be much happier if they were engaged in more productive activity. There'd be much more prosperity if the 10 million or so bureaucrats working in the government were making pies or building homes.
    The reason why socialism doesn't work is because it attracts the least rational people. It selects for emotionally unstable people who just want to feel good, who want a tingle up the leg instead of sound policies that actually benefit people.
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