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So I read some naranjo. I've spoken to several ENTJ's on the subject as well.
Something I've realized.
There are a lot of ENTJ's who I would percieve to be 8's, at least on the surface. But once I get to know them, they almost always start to bring up emotions I completely don't identify with. They're workoholics because they're scared of what would happen if they stopped working. They surround themselves with a posse who they trust to do everything for them.
Ever see "the last emperor"? Its almost the quintessential ENTJ story.
I once had an ENTJ ask me to join his company for oodles of cash. He wanted me to join his collective. I told him its impossible for me to do that, psychologically. I told him I have to either be a partner, or at the helm, and it is physically impossible for me to abide by any sort of "moral code" that others adhere to. I told him that either they would follow my own code of ethics, or they wouldn't.
He hasn't gotten back to me. Anyway we had some very deep conversations. I told him that I want to be a part of a community where each person is their own island, and not one where I'm sharing space on someone else's island.
My experience is making me question what it means to be an 8. After reading some naranjo and other articles, it says that ENTJ's are the most common form of CP6, and that 8's are strictly based off of sensation.
With this in mind, what does it mean to be an 8, and what does it mean to be a CP6?
I feel like the difference between the two is this:
CP6's most likely have a posse.
8's have nothing but themselves.
Both are big leaders but come in different forms.
I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Something I've realized.
There are a lot of ENTJ's who I would percieve to be 8's, at least on the surface. But once I get to know them, they almost always start to bring up emotions I completely don't identify with. They're workoholics because they're scared of what would happen if they stopped working. They surround themselves with a posse who they trust to do everything for them.
Ever see "the last emperor"? Its almost the quintessential ENTJ story.
I once had an ENTJ ask me to join his company for oodles of cash. He wanted me to join his collective. I told him its impossible for me to do that, psychologically. I told him I have to either be a partner, or at the helm, and it is physically impossible for me to abide by any sort of "moral code" that others adhere to. I told him that either they would follow my own code of ethics, or they wouldn't.
He hasn't gotten back to me. Anyway we had some very deep conversations. I told him that I want to be a part of a community where each person is their own island, and not one where I'm sharing space on someone else's island.
My experience is making me question what it means to be an 8. After reading some naranjo and other articles, it says that ENTJ's are the most common form of CP6, and that 8's are strictly based off of sensation.
With this in mind, what does it mean to be an 8, and what does it mean to be a CP6?
I feel like the difference between the two is this:
CP6's most likely have a posse.
8's have nothing but themselves.
Both are big leaders but come in different forms.
I'd like to hear your thoughts.