LadyJaye
Scream down the boulevard
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Instant karma's gonna get you.
What if I deflect it off on you? I mean, the cosmos might let me....
Instant karma's gonna get you.
John Lennon was a self-righteous douchebag.
Less preaching, more reading. Many of his political attacks lacked merit.
Emerson is SO >>>>>>>> Thoreau!
MORE FISTICUFFS!!
John Lennon is not my hero or my role model, so I can dislike him as much as I want. There are human foibles that accompany everyone, but I found him very pretentious, preachy and intractable for a guy who had very few and shifting views on life. Not admirable.
John Lennon was a self-righteous douchebag.
Less preaching, more reading. Many of his political attacks lacked merit.
This is a personal one, but if I never hear Imagine again, it will be too soon. Not that it's a bad song, but that people act like it's the be-all, end-all song of the world, and every sucky artist in the universe feels it's their personal duty to cover it.
This is a personal one, but if I never hear Imagine again, it will be too soon. Not that it's a bad song, but that people act like it's the be-all, end-all song of the world, and every sucky artist in the universe feels it's their personal duty to cover it.
Would it redeem the song for you somehow if someone else sang it? Perhaps, Sally Field?
Emerson wanted to engage the culture more, to live within culture and be a positive force while not letting one's self become taken over by it and Thoreau seemed more to think that this was impossible, that we need to turn our backs on the culture and go inwards to find ourselves.
Emerson seemed more ENFJ and Thoreau more INFP, just my opinion.
Did you not notice there were fisticuffs?!
QFLOLCommas. Stop teasing me with your complex ways, you vagarious minxes.
Okay, I actually like ELR, but that was beautiful.Raymond's brother was Eeyore written for adults who think like children...
Can't really say I'm a fan of Sally, either, but lulah, your insatiably seething contempt for her amuses me immensely. She seems rather innocuous to me. Is there some childhood trauma we should know about?Also? Sally Field sucks. I hate her little scrunchy face as much as Pink hates Redford.
Redundant, redundant, redundant (well, okay, there's a subtle difference between 1 and 3, but #2 covers both of those).morons, racists, or ignorant.
I gotta agree with colmena on the anime. It's a medium independent of the content, and it just happens that the majority of the content is either bad or really bad.I wouldn't knock it until you've seen Takahata's best films (Only Yesterday, Grave of The Fireflies).
The rest I can take or leave (usually leave).
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Seconded. Especially GTA and it's cheap path to fame via lame controversial content. I'd also throw in a whole lot of uninspired, derivative first-person shooters. Give people the opportunity for shootin' at folk, and they get instantly stupid and will pay for the same thing, over and over.How about video-games?
Halo and Grand Theft Auto.
And I defy anyone having the slightest glimmer of anything resembling humanity buried somewhere in their soul to watch Grave of the Fireflies without crying. I'm serious.
Surely anime's greatest triumph, "...Fireflies" IS nonetheless manipulative, it is not "anti-war" (whatever that means), and I wouldn't call it "depressing" either. It's beyond poignant however; an amazingly beautiful tragedy, woven with maybe the most affecting, poetic animated language ever constructed. When the tragedy comes, questions of fault seem beside the real point; whilst the firefly may die so soon, the images of its glowing will live on til the end of time.
Re: Thoreau. I'm sorry, camping a mile and a half from civilization (on land owned by Emerson, btw) does not self-reliance make. And it's easy to protest taxation and spend the night in jail when you have a rich aunt who can just pay them for you.
Ummm... thanks, I think. Not really a title I want. I didn't get involved in this thread for a long time, because I didn't feel that I'm that invested as a hater (I excel in apathy), and I saw the cost/benefit analysis of ranting on things that don't happen to appeal to me, but have no practical bearing on my life, as having a negative-sum result. It comes at the cost of offending (sometimes even hurting) people who happen to like some of these things, often to the point of being quite personally invested. And I can't really come up with a benefit.Gosh Matoon is the best hater!
That I have to disagree with. There have been several posts in this thread that have much more eloquently made their point than mine did. And in any case, they're all trumped by Ivy's Fisticuffs of Inescapable Doom. Which in turn shrinks into the vanishing point next to the galaxy-consuming, white-hot, mind-rending cries of rage of a myriad hellspawns that is lulah's loathing of Ms. Field.The best and tightly phrased justifications for his hate of anyone in this thread.
Also inaccurate. You are a class A hater. I mean that.I'm in awe at how poorly I hate in comparison and here I thought I was so adept.
Lol. Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Possibly informed by every avatar you've ever had.I am really, really into period pieces
Wow. Just... wow. Okay, that would push me over the edge. Both Sallys, and the Pfeiffer? I must purge this from my mind. And I blame you if I fail.How about a three-way sing-a-long of it by Sally Field, Michelle Pfeiffer and Sally Struthers.
Ivy and Emerson, sittin' in a tree...Emerson is assailable, I just have a personal affection for him that goes beyond the literature.
I like Thoreau more than Emerson because of the ideas and the literary style. I try not to lionize or criticize artists based on their lifestyles (it makes for interesting ways to appreciate their work, but it's ultimately tertiary, at best). That's why I never understood the Hunter S. Thompson love from the college set. I know the guy did a massive amount of drugs, but I doubt they have read anything besides Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (and possibly The Kentucky Derby Is Depraved and Decadent, which I really enjoyed). They like the maniac persona.
IMO you can't divorce the author from the work. It's not the only or even always the most important consideration, but the ideas didn't just appear in a vacuum.
Sign me,
Not a New Critic
That said, they ALL have personal foibles and you're correct that it doesn't make sense to demonize them based on those, or elevate them based on their awesome personalities. Still, their lives can be extremely interesting and some of them actually did seem to be larger-than-life.
Hemingway, IMO, is an interesting study in this. Some of his personal details should make him seem like a douche, but the totality of them are so over-the-top that it just adds to a fucking rock star devil-may-care asshole you can't help but adore. (Or I can't, anyway.) Wouldn't have dated or married him if you paid me, but good Lord he was a beautiful jackass.
I try to focus on the work as much as possible. Especially with music. There are plenty of tools who have made great music, and plenty of nice people who should be silenced forever. Also, the fanbase can be very annoying for artists with some talent (Radiohead, Chuck Palahniuk, Tim Burton, etc). Acknowledge the themes and subtexts, but don't make critical decisions based on perceptions of the artist.
Good writer, awesomely interesting life. The two are distinct (not totally separate, but still distinct) in my mind.