Ni
Ni + Te.
Ni + Te.
Ni + Te.
Would you agree that Extraverted Judgment functions are the most "dependent" functions? Would you agree that specifically Extraverted Feeling IS the most "dependent" function? On average, Will an ExFJ work better than an ExTJ alone? Will ExxJ's work better alone than ExxP's?
If you agree that Je is the most dependent on "people stimuli", then certainly Ji is the least dependent on "people stimuli".
If Je and Ji are extremes then in the middle lies Ni and Ne.
Therefore:
Independence(+):
Ti +10
Fi +7.5
Ni + 5
Si + 2.5
Independence(-):
Ne - 2.5
Se - 5
Te - 7.5
Fe - 10
From this you have to consider the Dom(+-5) and Aux(+-2.5) functions of each type so it's this:
INTP(10), ISTP(7.5)=INFP(7.5), ISFP(5)=ENTP(5), ESTP(2.5) = ENFP(2.5), ESFP(0) = INTJ(0), ISTJ(-2.5) = INFJ(-2.5), ISFJ(-5) = ENTJ(-5), ESTJ(-7.5) = ENFJ (-7.5), ESFJ(-10)
...at least based on my understanding. Realistically, I think nurture would overwhelm nature.
I value traditional morality from a purely Te pragmatic perspective: it is socially useful and optimal. I have zero interest in following it myself, however.You should totally meet my XSTJ brother. He values family traditions but for the most part, he's pretty nonconformist and an independent thinker... you would be quite surprised.
Sure it is. S's are 75-80% of the population. To the N's of the world (the minority by a margin of 3 to 1, or 4 to 1), S's are absolutely the "masses". Don't take it as a put down, it's just a fact. There's a lot more of you than there are of me.
We can walk into a room of people we've never seen before and know right away that something really strange is going on, or that people are uncomfortable, or that there is danger in the air.
Definitions of independent on the Web:
Free from external control and constraint; "an independent mind"; "a series of independent judgments"; "fiercely independent individualism"
AHA!~Many different styles here!
INTP-An independent mind.
INTJ-Fiercely independent individualism.
And the other who knows...I've constrained my view...
I think you are right.This is an interesting concept - to assign weightings to the different functions. The results simply do not align with reality however and therefore, there is a flaw somewhere in the logic.
Perhaps "F" is a bigger factor than I thought it was.According to the formula you propose, ISFP and ENFP are more independent than INTJ and ISTJ, which I believe to be relatively absurd.
Does "external" mean "outer world"?Definitions of independent on the Web:
Free from external control and constraint
INTP?; "an independent mind";
INTJ?"a series of independent judgments"
INTJ?"fiercely independent individualism"
INTP? INTJ? ISTP? What is "outside"?Autonomous: (of political bodies) not controlled by outside forces; "an autonomous judiciary"; "a sovereign state"
INTP?Mugwump: a neutral or uncommitted person (especially in politics)
Definately INTP. My best friend of 11 years is a through and high marked INTJ. She is very independent, and so am I.
The difference between these 2 types of independence is that INTJs are more likely to notice their affect on the world around them, and to want to tell someone about something exciting in their lives. The world also has a greater effect on their mood.
INTPs are never really "here". We are living in our heads, not right now in the moment, so the world around us is rarely ever "seen." Without these external forces, we could go off by ourselves and descend into our heads and be there for hours, days, or longer. If you don't notice what's around you, you can't even tell that you are detached from it, therefore you don't even realize how independent from existence you are.
An INTJ is usually independent as a result of an external force and/or to make a point. INTPs are independent because they feel the internal pull to be so.
And props to Craft and Curious.
The fact is INTPs will fall off this thread first, not b/c of anger but b/c of something else to investigate-internal pull, whether it involves the rest of you or not-external effect.
It boils down to this:INTJs can feel their independence. INTPs are unaware.
However, overall, I would say Introverts are more so than Extroverts for sure-Extroverts need social feedback.
Intuitives more than Sensory-Sensory needs environmental feedback.
Thinking more than feeling-Feeling needs relationship feedback.
Judging more than Perceiving-Judging needs here and now feedback.
AHA!~Many different styles here!
INTP-An independent mind.
INTJ-Fiercely independent individualism.
And the other who knows...I've constrained my view...
^ The ISTP would survive and thrive the longest, imo, if he were the last man on earth.
Gah, I meant man, as in mankind, hu-man.
I knew something like this was gonna happen.
You ITs,
^ The ISTP would survive and thrive the longest, imo, if he were the last man on earth.