DiscoBiscuit
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The reason they do this:
The reason they do this:
I'll get us started with a moderate position on the matter.
If the doctrine is to always finish a downed fighter with a security shot, just use that shot to shoot them in the head. Nothing to be gained from needlessly antagonizing folks shooting corpses.
Conversely I think security shots to the head of injured fighters sends the appropriate message.
And you could use your ideological attachment to egalitarianism to starve Ukraine killing millions like stalin. That doesnt mean I expect you to be that way just b/c you have egalitarianism in you.Taking pleasure in gore is a sign of sadistic personalities. That way you can also justify beheading of captured enemy soldiers.
And you could use your ideological attachment to egalitarianism to starve Ukraine killing millions like stalin. That doesnt mean I expect you to be that way just b/c you have egalitarianism in you.
Having those traits can be beneficial when tempered by reason.
I don't buy into the assumption that if you have ANY of those traits you are per se corrupted, those those traits need to be erased from the populace.
This is how you get the erasure of boys leading to our current crisis.
Do you mean to say that xSTPs are being oppressed in the modern world?If we're being honest, the arguments against those traits are strikingly similar in effect if the not tone to the one drop of black blood arguments in the Jim Crow south.
Hypermasculinity and antisocial behaviour are prevalent traits among prison inmates, cause it is correlated with a tendency for impulsivity and petty crime. Radical feminism OTOH is pushing the society towards hyperfemininity, which would consider even the moderate masculine behaviour as criminal offense and oppression.Im talking about male aggression. I left the utility of MBTI behind a while ago and don't care to go into discussions of its specifics.
You cant decouple masculine bravery and thirst for violence.Hypermasculinity and antisocial behaviour are prevalent traits among prison inmates, cause it is correlated with a tendency for impulsivity and petty crime. Radical feminism OTOH is pushing the society towards hyperfemininity, which would consider even the moderate masculine behaviour as criminal offense and oppression.
So moderation is the key. Bravery, strength and courage are acceptable expressions of masculinity whereas cruelty and thirst for violence are not as they are antisocial i.e. they are detrimental to collective leaving hence to the state/society, which is a collective construct.
Usually hypermasculine people try to satisfy those urges thru extreme sports, online pvp shooter games or by joining criminal organizations or by becoming mercenaries. I agree that radical feminism is going overboard with restricting expression of healthy masculinity though, like it's trying to trample and knock down masculinity, which to their eyes equate to patriarchy. I don't condone "Fight Club" style machismo either. I find both extremes detrimental to collective living.
That's difference between xSTJs (sheepdog) and the xSTPs (predators). xSTJs are better-adjusted to collective living then xSTPs.You cant decouple masculine bravery and thirst for violence.
Nobodies better than anybody.That's difference between xSTJs (sheepdog) and the xSTPs (predators). xSTJs are better-adjusted to collective living then xSTPs.
Better in the sense that xSTJs are less prone to behaviour considered criminal and antisocial.Nobodies better than anybody.
I don't know last time I checked I didnt see the FBI worrying about MBTI in crime statisticsBetter in the sense that xSTJs are less prone to behaviour considered criminal and antisocial.
Now this I can agree with, especially the highlighted. Compounding the problem is that, over the years, many less desirable traits have been linked with feminity/women, while more desirable ones have been linked with masculinity/men, even when they are simply fundamental human traits. Men have no monopoly on bravery, strength, and courage, though both society and to some extent biology may channel them into different manifestations or expressions of that.So moderation is the key. Bravery, strength and courage are acceptable expressions of masculinity whereas cruelty and thirst for violence are not as they are antisocial i.e. they are detrimental to collective leaving hence to the state/society, which is a collective construct.
Usually hypermasculine people try to satisfy those urges thru extreme sports, online pvp shooter games or by joining criminal organizations or by becoming mercenaries. I agree that radical feminism is going overboard with restricting expression of healthy masculinity though, like it's trying to trample and knock down masculinity, which to their eyes equate to patriarchy. I don't condone "Fight Club" style machismo either. I find both extremes detrimental to collective living.
Decoupling that makes the difference between civilization and the wild. There is more than one way to express masculinity, not all of them constructive.You cant decouple masculine bravery and thirst for violence.
Today, over 50 years later, swagger and bravado too often masquerade as masculinity, and folks will tell you there is a war on manhood. But take it from me, someone who grew up surrounded by salt-of-the-earth, flawed-but-humble men: The problem isn’t masculinity. The problem is a version of manhood that refuses to take personal responsibility and celebrates a win-at-all-costs triumphalism.
These vices are what make conversation and cooperation impossible. These vices are what wreck families, churches, communities, and countries.
If we’re to make any progress on gun violence, or a host of other issues tearing our country apart, we must identify the real source of the problem. The conflict is between pride and humility. The conflict is between those who own their faults and confess them and those who refuse to admit wrong. It’s between hearts that are softened by the plight of their neighbor and those that are hardened.
Thanks for no true scotsmanning what it means to be a man.Now this I can agree with, especially the highlighted. Compounding the problem is that, over the years, many less desirable traits have been linked with feminity/women, while more desirable ones have been linked with masculinity/men, even when they are simply fundamental human traits. Men have no monopoly on bravery, strength, and courage, though both society and to some extent biology may channel them into different manifestations or expressions of that.
Decoupling that makes the difference between civilization and the wild. There is more than one way to express masculinity, not all of them constructive.
So can I. Reread my last sentence. That is the antithesis of the "true scotsman" approach.Thanks for no true scotsmanning what it means to be a man.
I can decide what that means on my own.
I don't go in for polyanna bullshit.So can I. Reread my last sentence. That is the antithesis of the "true scotsman" approach.
You don't speak for "this moment". I can agree about Pollyanna, though. A good example of making the feminine look rather ridiculous.I don't go in for polyanna bullshit.
And neither does this American moment.
I'm not speaking for it I'm speaking about it.You don't speak for "this moment". I can agree about Pollyanna, though. A good example of making the feminine look rather ridiculous.