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My termites win
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Well, what is the point of learning this stuff if we aren't going to try to use it?
So, I am a Type 5 with balances wings. When I was younger, I think I was 5w4, but my six wing became quite a bit stronger in my mid to late 20's.
Reading through the level's of health, I place myself at level 4 (the top average level). You can decide for yourself whether this is correct or not. I appreciate honest, constructive feedback. Note: I don't believe overall mental health equates with the "enneagram health"
So anyway, here is what 5 - Enneagram Type Five: The Investigator gives as level 4:
The next level up is:
In Riso-Hudson's book: Amazon.com: Personality Types: Using the Enneagram for Self-Discovery (0046442798679): Russ Hudson, Don Richard Riso: Books there is an even more in depth discussion.
The basic difference between Level 4 vs. Level 3 is that level 4 is constantly preparing while level 3 is doing. Level 3 acknowledges that you don't need to be fully prepared to start a project. Level 3 has confidence that what needs to be known or learned can be learned on the fly.
So the question is: How does one gain the confidence to start projects without "full" preparation?
Would you start a business without being completely prepared?
Would you commit to being able to take on a project at work without knowing ahead of time that you could handle it?
Interestingly enough, there is a career development class I am going to take through work, and part of the theory that class will use says a similar thing is necessary for me to move into the next stage of my career.
It says, specifically, that I must learn to develop my own ideas and judgments, cultivate my own standards of performance, and develop confidence in my own judgment.
So, I am a Type 5 with balances wings. When I was younger, I think I was 5w4, but my six wing became quite a bit stronger in my mid to late 20's.
Reading through the level's of health, I place myself at level 4 (the top average level). You can decide for yourself whether this is correct or not. I appreciate honest, constructive feedback. Note: I don't believe overall mental health equates with the "enneagram health"
So anyway, here is what 5 - Enneagram Type Five: The Investigator gives as level 4:
Begin conceptualizing and fine-tuning everything before acting—working things out in their minds: model building, preparing, practicing, and gathering more resources. Studious, acquiring technique. Become specialized, and often "intellectual," often challenging accepted ways of doing things.
The next level up is:
Level 3: Attain skillful mastery of whatever interests them. Excited by knowledge: often become expert in some field. Innovative and inventive, producing extremely valuable, original works. Highly independent, idiosyncratic, and whimsical.
In Riso-Hudson's book: Amazon.com: Personality Types: Using the Enneagram for Self-Discovery (0046442798679): Russ Hudson, Don Richard Riso: Books there is an even more in depth discussion.
The basic difference between Level 4 vs. Level 3 is that level 4 is constantly preparing while level 3 is doing. Level 3 acknowledges that you don't need to be fully prepared to start a project. Level 3 has confidence that what needs to be known or learned can be learned on the fly.
So the question is: How does one gain the confidence to start projects without "full" preparation?
Would you start a business without being completely prepared?
Would you commit to being able to take on a project at work without knowing ahead of time that you could handle it?
Interestingly enough, there is a career development class I am going to take through work, and part of the theory that class will use says a similar thing is necessary for me to move into the next stage of my career.
It says, specifically, that I must learn to develop my own ideas and judgments, cultivate my own standards of performance, and develop confidence in my own judgment.