Argus
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Can you have a mind without sensory input? Is consciousness possible without sensory input?
Let's imagine a mind or a brain that has come into being/born completely disconnected from all sensory input. No sight, no sound, taste, touch. Nothing. What would that mind think? could it think? It has no sensory experiance to draw on. No images, symbols, or representations. Not having seen or heard a language, what kind of internal dialogue (the only one it could have) would it have? could it have an internal dialogue? How can it articulate any thought with out sensory experiance. What would it imagine without any sensory experiance to reference. What would things like loud, red, beautiful, hot, cold, or alone mean to it?
Applying this to God... if nothing else existed for him to sense, God's mind would have made some shit up... BANG! ;-).
The problem is; if there was no previouse experiance to draw from what could god have made up? Hallucinations and dreams are possible because there is stored sensory information (i.e. memory) to draw from. What if that was not there to begin with?Sensory input is nothing but physical interaction with the world. And it is with sensory input and stimulus that our mind develops.
When you are thinking to yourself, how do you articulate your thoughts? With words / language? With images? With sounds? and sensations? What if you did not have any experiance of that to draw on? How could you articulate a thought? What would you think about? How could you think?
This would be the dilemma a pre-existing god would have. That is unless God came with pre-existing experiance. But experiance of what?
This would also be the dilemma with a disembodied mind (i.e. spirit) Sensory input is something associated with the physical realm. Unless there is some sort of mechinisim inwhich for the spirit or disembodied mind to sense. But again, what would it sense?
Let's imagine a mind or a brain that has come into being/born completely disconnected from all sensory input. No sight, no sound, taste, touch. Nothing. What would that mind think? could it think? It has no sensory experiance to draw on. No images, symbols, or representations. Not having seen or heard a language, what kind of internal dialogue (the only one it could have) would it have? could it have an internal dialogue? How can it articulate any thought with out sensory experiance. What would it imagine without any sensory experiance to reference. What would things like loud, red, beautiful, hot, cold, or alone mean to it?
Applying this to God... if nothing else existed for him to sense, God's mind would have made some shit up... BANG! ;-).
The problem is; if there was no previouse experiance to draw from what could god have made up? Hallucinations and dreams are possible because there is stored sensory information (i.e. memory) to draw from. What if that was not there to begin with?Sensory input is nothing but physical interaction with the world. And it is with sensory input and stimulus that our mind develops.
When you are thinking to yourself, how do you articulate your thoughts? With words / language? With images? With sounds? and sensations? What if you did not have any experiance of that to draw on? How could you articulate a thought? What would you think about? How could you think?
This would be the dilemma a pre-existing god would have. That is unless God came with pre-existing experiance. But experiance of what?
This would also be the dilemma with a disembodied mind (i.e. spirit) Sensory input is something associated with the physical realm. Unless there is some sort of mechinisim inwhich for the spirit or disembodied mind to sense. But again, what would it sense?
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