I have often excessively seeked attention and approval from others at the cost of more logical pathways. For instance instead of choosing a more logical pathway I would do something to aplease my friends to keep in their good books so I could keep an level of excitement around. Any hints?. A big theme in my life has been seeking approval and attention from others
2w3 so/sx or in your own words:
I haven't seen anything that indicates e7 or head type in general. I can understand why e9 is brought up; instinctual harmony seeking, don't rock the boat mentality. But instinctual is the key reactive rather then thought out. You seem really quite controlled in everything you do. An example would be how you acted in the INTJ/ENFP thread, then proceeded to make your own version of it. I suspect you had an objective (a chance at hitting on ENFPs) from the start.
Perhaps [MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION] could weigh in? She has spectacular instincts for finding e7s, maybe there is something I'm just not seeing.
2w3 so/sx or in your own words:
I haven't seen anything that indicates e7 or head type in general. I can understand why e9 is brought up; instinctual harmony seeking, don't rock the boat mentality. But instinctual is the key reactive rather then thought out. You seem really quite controlled in everything you do. An example would be how you acted in the INTJ/ENFP thread, then proceeded to make your own version of it. I suspect you had an objective (a chance at hitting on ENFPs) from the start.
Perhaps [MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION] could weigh in? She has spectacular instincts for finding e7s, maybe there is something I'm just not seeing.
I totally understand all of what you say above...and honestly only time will tell because I believe BiaJ is still quite young? idk.
BiaJ I believe is an over-extroverting ENTP...he's like 100%NeFe and with that Fe being not natural to him...it can feel a little ooey-gooey a little bit like he's gently moving chess pieces which are actually people around a board which is actually a setting. I told BiaJ to check out [MENTION=15607]The Great One[/MENTION] if you remember him.
He had the same thing going on...people often said EFJ as his type as well as ENFP because he was expressing Ne>Fe>Ti so he had that vibe kinda.
I think he is most likely a 7...I think what we will see as he slowly stops over-extroverting...is that he's actually a 7w8...he definitely has an attachment to control which is where I think 2 comes from as well.
eta...a lot of 7w8s don't have that crazy head-type energy at least externally like you, yourself present smooth
Fascinating; I'm not surprised at my screwed perception, I do find reading his posts quite difficult. Yes I have always assumed he is quite young; hence the difficulty telling personality versus callow youth. The Great One I do remember him. I always thought he was an excellent example of braggadocio persona some 7w6/6w7 project.
I think the lack of any Ti has always thrown me; his views are almost perfect illustrations of Fe social appropriateness . His debates just a harmonious amalgamation intent on appeasement. I've always considered NeFe to be, well angry. A defensive measure, rather then one so ah happy?
I wasn't comparing him to me, given how he seems to be an obvious social first, more the general behavioural patterns from the this, other, and specific ENTP/forums/sub-forums.
If what you are saying above is that within the 3 positive outlook groups you will find a whole bunch of people...more likely than not social doms... that are desperate to keep the environment conflict free for fear of how they behave when they lose it...then I'm feeling that. If not...then I don't really know what you are saying sorry.
Which part did I lose you on? The first part was largely about the complete absence of Ti analysis. I presume it was about NeFe being angry? This loop seems to create the quick-fire ENTPs; the type that gets upset often, but rationalises it into a bullshit crusade. Like a dog with a bone; will not let the issue go, ever. Often seems to end with a ban. This happy loop is strange, you think its a form of protection? If I don't offend anyone then they won't push out my demons mentality?
Thoughts on tritype? 729 so/?
What you describe sounds more like an over-extroverting ENFP to me...Ne>Te needs to be right, can't let it go, aggressive, pushy, tantrum, bad behavior. Where ENTPs become charming as hell and may be totally taking you for everything you're worth in the process...but an over-extroverting ENTP would be charming and quite possibly manipulative.
He's so/sx but I honestly think he's too young/loopy to accurately type.
Crusade probably wasn't quite the right word; but I'm not entirely sure which word does fit. Do you remember those INFJ doorslam threads, and the type of disgruntled ENTPs that posted in them?
True; based on what I do see ESFJ still makes a great deal more sense; but as I'm obviously in the minority; 'll leave it at that.
Well, there's over-extroverting which is thought to happen in the young and/or stressed. The person is looking for validation outside of themselves and relies more heavily on their two extroverted functions. Again, this can occur developmentally in teens and young adults...or when the individual is stressed or experiencing low self esteem.
^^NeFe over-extroverting is described sorta like...the individual is overly invested in being the person that creates lively, fun interactions with people where others will infuse the interaction with the positive emotion they are trying to experience within themselves. Okay that description sucked...but something like that.
loops...are associated with personality disorders and many people debate whether or not they are an actual thing.
Then there's "disgruntled" which for an ENTP 7 means inferior Si anxiety fueled needling and pressing until they unlock the magic formula and all the anxiety goes *poof* gone.
Yah...see how you like it now...being in the minority.
I totally understand all of what you say above...and honestly only time will tell because I believe BiaJ is still quite young? idk.
BiaJ I believe is an over-extroverting ENTP...he's like 100%NeFe and with that Fe being not natural to him...it can feel a little ooey-gooey a little bit like he's gently moving chess pieces which are actually people around a board which is actually a setting. I told BiaJ to check out [MENTION=15607]The Great One[/MENTION] if you remember him. He had the same thing going on...people often said EFJ as his type as well as ENFP because he was expressing Ne>Fe>Ti so he had that vibe kinda.
I think he is most likely a 7...I think what we will see as he slowly stops over-extroverting...is that he's actually a 7w8...he definitely has an attachment to control which is where I think 2 comes from as well.
eta...a lot of 7w8s don't have that crazy head-type energy at least externally like you, yourself present smooth
So I am in a Ne/Fe loop? This fits me well as I often supress my Ti to appease others a lot. Another theory is that the lack of Ti some see is due to me being able to hide it behind Fe in debates. I am using Ti but it is presented differently from pure Ti and is delivered in the form of ether Ne or Fe I think.
So I am in a Ne/Fe loop? This fits me well as I often supress my Ti to appease others a lot. Another theory is that the lack of Ti some see is due to me being able to hide it behind Fe in debates. I am using Ti but it is presented differently from pure Ti and is delivered in the form of ether Ne or Fe I think.
Oh I remember another point that I made with another member. This member mentioned that my Fe was too forced and casual to be Fe dom. I am curious in what ways would my "Forced Fe" look like.
Ne? ...in debates? Huh...I don't think I've ever used it for that.
Or I stopped a long time ago. Got tired of people calling me crazy because they couldn't see what I could.
It's very hard being so fucking superior.