Very well said Proteanmix. I agree completely.
That's a large part of it for me. Recently I was at my mother's birthday party in Canada where I was in the kitchen mixing up some margaritas. Along comes my new INTP step-father and as I'm blending, asks me what I think of Obama and McCain's ideas about Iraq. I barely know the guy, I'm focused on something else, and that's not party conversation IMO.
Both. If it's an NT, who wants the conversation, I need to prepare myself by going to the library or on the net, and getting my facts straight, so I don't make a fool of myself. ha ha Also, many times with NTs the reason they want to discuss it in the first place is because they have strong opinions and either want to convince you of something or debate. That really drains me, and I rather dislike it. I'm not a debater - you've got your opinon, I've got mine= nuff said. I also make it a point to stay in the present and while stimulating conversation about all sorts of things can be part of that....still, you've got to read people and see what they are in the mood for and what's going on around you.
I've heard of this 'rage' on these MBTI forums but I know lots of SPs and only a couple of them have a temper. Much, much less than the NT rage. I can honestly say that I'm over 40 and have only lost my temper twice and both times I was drunk.
I find most people are willing to engage in "abstract" or "deeper" topics when they feel comfortable with you or when they're gathered specifically to discuss that kind of stuff. Those subjects tend to expose people deep held beliefs, thoughts, or feelings and most people don't want those exposed right off that bat
That's a large part of it for me. Recently I was at my mother's birthday party in Canada where I was in the kitchen mixing up some margaritas. Along comes my new INTP step-father and as I'm blending, asks me what I think of Obama and McCain's ideas about Iraq. I barely know the guy, I'm focused on something else, and that's not party conversation IMO.
Is it because you need to be in a certain mindset to want to discuss such things? Or is it because you would rather focus on the present than be distracted with discussion?
Both. If it's an NT, who wants the conversation, I need to prepare myself by going to the library or on the net, and getting my facts straight, so I don't make a fool of myself. ha ha Also, many times with NTs the reason they want to discuss it in the first place is because they have strong opinions and either want to convince you of something or debate. That really drains me, and I rather dislike it. I'm not a debater - you've got your opinon, I've got mine= nuff said. I also make it a point to stay in the present and while stimulating conversation about all sorts of things can be part of that....still, you've got to read people and see what they are in the mood for and what's going on around you.
ISTPs can be really annoying. That "SP Rage" drives me up the wall. Sorry, alicia! That's every ISTP except you, but including my roommate.
I've heard of this 'rage' on these MBTI forums but I know lots of SPs and only a couple of them have a temper. Much, much less than the NT rage. I can honestly say that I'm over 40 and have only lost my temper twice and both times I was drunk.