Reading through this thread has not been particularly illuminating and perhaps someone else is in the same boat.
I could give specific quotes but anyone should be able to see:
Sometimes the way you guys talked about Ni (in terms of generating ideas for an essay) makes it sound more like Ne
Sometimes the way you guys talked about Ti (in terms of organizing and structuring an essay) makes it sound more like Te.
A lot of people probably think that just because it's being done inside, it's Ti, but all thinking is done internally (you don't say, Sherlock !).
Even if it's done using purely imaginary fodder, categorizing, structuring, and inductive reasoning seems to be the domain of Te to me. So in the case of structuring essays, wouldn't that be Te?
Similarly, analogies, logic problems, and deductive reasoning seems to be the domain of Ti, even if you are applying it to physical things in the outside world such as trying to solve a mystery involving diabolical hamsters.
I agree. I've tried to make that point before, but it didn't really take. Not being able to organize thoughts is more about Te, imo, than Ti. Perhaps and Ne/Te loop? Ti is about one thought process being perfect and concise and well defined.
My example of a Ni/Ti loop would probably be more along the lines of:
I wake up on a snowy day with the wind howling, and something inside(Ni) tells me to roll off the bed because the professor will be discussing something important today. While my Ti tells me that it's cold, windy, and I would be liable to freeze my dangly bits off.
Then Te would come in and say, "dude, just throw on a heavy coat and get your butt out there.If you stay in bed today, this will become a habit"
Finally Ne says, "perhaps this lousy weather is part of a nefarious plot by those diabolical hamsters..."
I wasn't sure I did this loop then I read another member's post (d4mselfly), and I was like, AHA! I do this all the time when I've had a relationship issue, and I have had not enough Fe data to help me understand what is going on, leaving me to muddle through it on my own. So it looks like this for me:
Ni sees what it wants to see and makes it all sound sooo plausible. Fe said, "No, that's not how it is," yet it didn't/couldn't elaborate to a sufficient degree. A sufficient degree would probably mean weeks of dialogue and rehashings/revisitings.
So Ti starts trying to grind it all down into an understandable pill to swallow.
But Ti sucks ass because it's much nicer to remain
irrational and see with Ni than Ti. So, even though some relief will be had after Ti has done its thang (relief that, for me, lasts maybe hours or days), stark reality ensues, and just doesn't feel very good or comfortable or settling; and Ni addiction will kick back in like the serpent in the Garden of Eden and be like, "That's not reeaallly how it is. Your intuition was really right all along, you know," and in that split second, the Mind's reality will feel even better than True reality, and you are tricked into eating the Apple, thinking all the time maybe This IS true reality, and that you were wrong to ever have listened to Ti in the first place.
Then when the stuporous effects wear off, as they will, confusion enters because life in your head doesn't jive with life in the real world and you wonder why, eliciting Ti's help again..............
Ni is a fucking drug. It's the true blue pill. I love it. But it can be hazardous to your health if it's not diluted with Fe (and Se?). (if you're an infj, Te if you're intj).
And I guess that's how my loop goes.