KarenParker
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I am trying to figure out if someone is ISFP or ISFJ and I'm having trouble telling the difference. What are some things that come to mind for you?
It's pretty easy to tell them apart:
ISFPs are artsy, less social and more interested in physical action and the present moment.
ISFJs are very traditional, service oriented, past, traditional focused.
ISFP vs. ISFJ is like painter vs. nurse
You really think so?Andy freakin' Warhol was an ISFJ.
You sound very well-read! If he's isfj, what's his enneatype?
I don't know. 1w2? 3w2? I'm not as knowledgable with enneagram.
Unhealthy sexual variant of 3w2 'The Star'
isfjs spend their time collecting images of inanimate objects with smiley faces.
Probably more of an isfj e23 tendancy than e67 or 65.
2w3 - Seeking Love and Image
LifeExplore
This wing brings Twos an extra measure of sociability and the capacity to make things happen. When healthy, can be charming, good-natured and heartfelt. Really get things done, serve effectively on projects that involve the well-being of others. Thrive on group process and are generally good communicators. Enjoy keeping several threads or projects going at once. Entranced Twos with a 3 wing can be quite emotionally competitive and controlling. 3 wing brings a double dose of vanity. Strong tendency to live in one's images. May grow brazenly deluded, preferring their glamorous, self-important scenarios to reality. Tendencies to deceit and emotional calculation. Highly manipulative. This wing is also more extroverted; dramatization of feeling in the form of hysterical snit-fits is far more possible.
"Type 3: confronting approval-seeker. -/+
The 3’s surface compulsion moves against people, while the underlying compulsion moves toward people. This explains why the 3 seems pushy and competitive, while underneath they paradoxically want the approval of others. These conflicting surface and deep compulsions make the average 3 seem deceptive, as they claim to be a bold, aggressive leader, while denying the deeper compulsion that makes them follow the leadership of the society around them. This is analogous to the 2, who is deceptive in the other direction – the average 2 claims to only be helping others, while denying the aggressive motives hidden underneath."
http://www.9types.com/writeup/Theory20.htm
I haven't read much on his life so will take your word for it regarding his hospitable nature, but regarding his being e3, does he move away or towards people? Is he energetic, bold, pushy, competitive?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akNgEFwkCsA&feature=related
Above's an interview with Warhol and Steven Speilberg (who I think is an e56 so/sx intj). Do you see the 3ish aggression that manifests in his behavior that's so typical of the type? Is that same going-against apparent in Warhol's?
The descriptions at mindheart could probably afford to be revised.