Seymour
Vaguely Precise
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I was typing this up, and then I went to eat dinner. I spent a lot of time putting this together at Starbucks yesterday. It's amazing how similar ESTPs and INTPs are. Nardi says that ESTPs are more geared towards tactical action (he used Mario Kart to simulate this), and I guess INTPs are more inclined to be boring data analysts.
If there's an error somewhere, let me know.
One thing to keep in mind is that he published usage per region for an example individual of each type based on data collected during that person's session, not a per-type weighted average. If you look at the 3 ISFPs case study towards the end of the book, you can see that the ISFPs differ on specifics a fair amount. Also, given that he has about 3-6 people of each type, that's not a large enough sample of individual types to generalize too much. His examples are certainly very suggestive, but I think ranking as you've done above is more ranking example individuals, and not ranking types themselves.
This is especially true given how training and experience seem to shape what regions on you use (and all the more so for SJs).
[...Fi types ignoring the negative...] This sounds so very e9 though....which of course, many ISFPs are. I wonder if this is why ISFPs are more prone to this than INFPs.
Although the below suggests otherwise, even though its regarding F8 (F8 Grounded Believer: Evaluate people and activities in terms of like or dislike, and/or recall details with high accuracy):
I didn't personally relate much to that part, either. Although I admit I'm perfectly capable of attempting to ignore contrary information when I don't have time to process. Still, if anything, I tend to fasten on negative feedback and ignore the positive.
Other studies have claimed a correlation between depression and preferring Fp2 over Fp1, so seems unlikely to me personally that Fp1 vs Fp2 can be entirely about type. When you look at the various things that Fp1 seems to do (deciding quickly, coming up with reasonable sounding explanations, noticing errors, filtering out distractions, and pursuing goals), neither of the IFPs really pop into mind as exemplars.
So... that's an area where I think more research would be nice since Nardi's results in this instance seem so counterintuitive (at least to me, personally).
I'm actually surprised that INFPs use this mostly positively. I have to admit I tend to evaluate negatively (as Jung noted Fi is apt to do, or it appears that way, at least).... I see how things DON'T measure up to an ideal & then consider if I can accept its deficiencies. Only if something has potential that is really strikingly close to an ideal can I put on rose-coloured glasses & naively focus on its positives, and really, I see this as Ne tendency to inject positive potential into the unknown.
I think F8 sometimes fires when judging things that are personally important, not necessarily that things are perfect. For example, Nardi gave the example one musician for whom it fired when he talked bout "my music" and "my guitar." For one SFJ (don't remember the exact type), it seemed to fire when he talked about "being there for friends" and the value he placed on friendship. I would call those positive valuations, even though they aren't evaluating any particular artifact as perfect.
Although, conversely, Nardi does mention F8 firing when evaluating things based beliefs of what is always good/bad. Unlike T5, F8 is about what is good and bad regardless of social context. It also seem to be a region where non-socially-contextual modesty is based.
So, anyway... don't have good answers or guesses for this, really. I certainly tend towards perfectionism myself and don't see myself as wearing rose-colored glasses. Still, I feel like I tend to define myself based more what I value and stand for, not what I demonize and stand against. It would have been helpful if Nardi had given some examples of negative F8 valuations he saw more with other types (assuming I didn't just forget that he did so).