kyuuei
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What's been your experience with teachers teaching by the books vs branching out?
This semester is the hardest class of all, and it's because there's very little guidance, a TON of material, an impossibility for memorization of all of that material, and the instructors don't give us hints or tips on what is truly important. So you spend 10 hours memorizing something that is important in class but useless for the exam, and if you forget the exact wording of a single sentence in the book you'll miss an entire test question. The students hate the professors for it, but the professors also get very very little true feedback either. The questions come STRAIGHT out of the exam's book that's been provided, even if they are tricky, the book is expensive and students pay a lot of money so they validate that by pulling the material out of there, and they want to weed out students who really want to be nurses from those floating through the program forcing you to read all of that material and work your ass off just to not see 80% of it on the exam. On top of that, students hardly read the book until the last minute, so none of them go into the office during regular times and ask questions about aspects they might not understand to request further teaching and they claim they're always available. No one really exhausts those resources, but they're quick to complain.
I really see it from both sides of the issue... Students want teachers to be proactive, teachers want students to be proactive.
What's been your best balance between stuff in the textbook and teachers? Did you learn more when textbooks weren't used? And I don't mean "I got a better experience out of it" I mean truly learned the material for the future or whatever.
The best classes I had, and the ones I learned the most from, were by-the-book classes with significant augmentation that motivated me to actually read the book. I've heard people say they cannot learn from a book. And I think it's a little nonsense--anyone can learn from a book if they can read. I think the best set ups have always been when teachers make you read the book BEFORE class, go to class and test your knowledge, then you hear it out loud on the day after you read with lots of cool videos, tricks and tips for memorizing the material, then two days later hands on training with a lab for science courses, and then during the weekend create a review sheet on the concepts you needed to learn to have something to reference later for an exam. The classes I didn't need the book for were the classes I memorized and dumped immediately after exams.
I think my program lacks so much the hands-on portion as well as the interactive teaching element. They don't require students to read the book before, so we don't because there's so much to do, and don't give much guidance on what's truly important and they just hand us powerpoints and books and say "here, read this, good luck" pretty much. So many great nurses potentially are floundering with the material, and there's little consideration for people with ESL obstacles.
So what's been your experience in school?
This semester is the hardest class of all, and it's because there's very little guidance, a TON of material, an impossibility for memorization of all of that material, and the instructors don't give us hints or tips on what is truly important. So you spend 10 hours memorizing something that is important in class but useless for the exam, and if you forget the exact wording of a single sentence in the book you'll miss an entire test question. The students hate the professors for it, but the professors also get very very little true feedback either. The questions come STRAIGHT out of the exam's book that's been provided, even if they are tricky, the book is expensive and students pay a lot of money so they validate that by pulling the material out of there, and they want to weed out students who really want to be nurses from those floating through the program forcing you to read all of that material and work your ass off just to not see 80% of it on the exam. On top of that, students hardly read the book until the last minute, so none of them go into the office during regular times and ask questions about aspects they might not understand to request further teaching and they claim they're always available. No one really exhausts those resources, but they're quick to complain.
I really see it from both sides of the issue... Students want teachers to be proactive, teachers want students to be proactive.
What's been your best balance between stuff in the textbook and teachers? Did you learn more when textbooks weren't used? And I don't mean "I got a better experience out of it" I mean truly learned the material for the future or whatever.
The best classes I had, and the ones I learned the most from, were by-the-book classes with significant augmentation that motivated me to actually read the book. I've heard people say they cannot learn from a book. And I think it's a little nonsense--anyone can learn from a book if they can read. I think the best set ups have always been when teachers make you read the book BEFORE class, go to class and test your knowledge, then you hear it out loud on the day after you read with lots of cool videos, tricks and tips for memorizing the material, then two days later hands on training with a lab for science courses, and then during the weekend create a review sheet on the concepts you needed to learn to have something to reference later for an exam. The classes I didn't need the book for were the classes I memorized and dumped immediately after exams.
I think my program lacks so much the hands-on portion as well as the interactive teaching element. They don't require students to read the book before, so we don't because there's so much to do, and don't give much guidance on what's truly important and they just hand us powerpoints and books and say "here, read this, good luck" pretty much. So many great nurses potentially are floundering with the material, and there's little consideration for people with ESL obstacles.
So what's been your experience in school?