DiscoBiscuit
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Softer inside...
Harder outside...
Harder outside...
Kangirl, you, TG's conversion
also some softer ENTJs with disco and babs.
Kangirl, you,
also some softer ENTJs with disco and babs.
I don't compare myself to ENTJ's. Why? They're basically me extroverted. They do get into that steamrolling mode and then I just tell them to relax because they look like an asshole and that's only if I feel like expending the energy to care about what they're doing. Or their yelling is giving me a headache. Otherwise I see it as every type reads what it wants to read here and answers accordingly. The ones who start the threads have their reasons just like anyone else. I see competitiveness here from ENTJ's (and other types) but I keep in mind, they are usually young-ish and will eventually mellow.
I usually love and admire INTJs, and don't try to be better than them, either
Like above quote
Being an ENTJ doesn't mean your strong, there are no more strong ENTJs than strong... say, ISFPs. They are more assertive and aggressive, but that doesn't provide intellectual or physical superiority.
I don't compare myself to types, I compare myself to people. If that person who I'm competing with happens to be an ENTJ, I tend to withdraw and base my arguments on quality > quantity. I smile a lot and act calmly, which makes them lose composure and as they struggle to strike even harder, they lose their grounds. At this point, their defeat is imminent. They're like those boxers who try to win so hard and punch so fast that they step out of the circle and get disqualified. The same strategy doesn't work on other types though.
I just want to be the best person I can.
Ok. So, the conculsions are here. People do want to win the ENTJ, some - especially the INTJ, try to frame it in a story device that they "don't want that", a story device that has gotten awfully ugly by now. The INTJ's motives are strongly at suspect. People want to have a jab at the ENTJ, perhaps exerting their "coolness", skills, intellect or whatever - but they do desire to exert their thing unprovoked. Given a little provocation, they do want to exert their coolness, win, whatever, etc.. but it's obvious, very, very obvious. Perhaps the people would like to be less obvious, almost like a ninja or spy of some sorts, even though they are painfully, blatantly obvious. Perhaps the people like to blame the ENTJ for "obviousness" and lack of "tact" as well
I haven't seen much proof that people bashing ENTJ aren't just in the business of promoting themselves .. the style of the conversation in here is shitty, and will not get more attention from me, unless I want to punish myself in the near future. Be seeing you in some hopefully fruitful threads.
What sorry failures of a people have come here.
Anyway I can say that when I first came to the forum (and a lot of it was my fault) there was a lot of negative shit sent at me which was phrased in ways like "What else do you expect from an ENTJ!".
Lately that's been a lot less common.
I think everybody in this forum loved my ENTJ-ness. Just like all the Italians love Berlusconi, I mean.
Although the balanced ones are the best in real life, I guess they are the ones that make the bland perfect heroes in stories. I'm actually trying to describe the ENTJ faults, and remember them for later use... Flaws are interesting in fiction (though, indeed, in real life I would prefer balanced people!)1), I think we can discuss a neutral ENTJ in the "balanced type" thread.
Ok. So, the conculsions are here. People do want to win the ENTJ, some - especially the INTJ, try to frame it in a story device that they "don't want that", a story device that has gotten awfully ugly by now. The INTJ's motives are strongly at suspect. People want to have a jab at the ENTJ, perhaps exerting their "coolness", skills, intellect or whatever - but they do desire to exert their thing unprovoked. Given a little provocation, they do want to exert their coolness, win, whatever, etc.. but it's obvious, very, very obvious. Perhaps the people would like to be less obvious, almost like a ninja or spy of some sorts, even though they are painfully, blatantly obvious. Perhaps the people like to blame the ENTJ for "obviousness" and lack of "tact" as well
I haven't seen much proof that people bashing ENTJ aren't just in the business of promoting themselves .. the style of the conversation in here is shitty, and will not get more attention from me, unless I want to punish myself in the near future. Be seeing you in some hopefully fruitful threads.
What sorry failures of a people have come here.
Kangirl, you, TG's conversion
also some softer ENTJs with disco and babs.
Oh man, I hope he understands that this forum is just a microcosm of life at large.
I am suddenly reminded of people who get drunk off of the minimal power they have in life, like the manager of a Gap, or some police officer who was constantly bullied when he was a school boy.
I think this mentality is sad and pathetic.
He's not talking about a global campaign but a campaign on this forum.
It's undeniable that the spamming of ENTJ threads by TG combined with the rise in female ENTJ presence has softened the perception of us considerably.
Anyway I can say that when I first came to the forum (and a lot of it was my fault) there was a lot of negative shit sent at me which was phrased in ways like "What else do you expect from an ENTJ!".
Lately that's been a lot less common.
Babylon is now an ENFJ.
unlikely.
Babylon is now an ENFJ.
unlikely.