Interesting....I find NTPs misinterpret MY black humor, but I don't do the same to them. Related to the above quote, they try to project emotion on me when I was taking a mocking tone or an exaggeratedly morose tone merely for humorous effect. Even on this message board I've seen double standards for flippant tones in NTPs & NFPs.
Isn't coming your idealism in your way if you "use" black humor? That's not meant as an insult, but rather as a honest question. I start to get how Fe works and even use it myself increasingly often, but I still don't exactly get (Ne-)Fi. Don't you think something like "That shouldn't be laughed about, these people
are suffering!" or something similarily morally, dependent on the issue?
It's true that both Fe and Fi can react personal to an unpersonally meant statement; As it seemed to me until now, Fe-User can react personally involved to the simple act of arguing too hard against them(unfortunately, I did this myself sometimes in the past, but now that I got aware, I try to avoid it), while Fi-User - in my experience - react personally if they feel that their worldview is attacked.
I wonder if this is the flipside of what I see as: "Telling me what I think & why without actually grasping what I think correctly & then continuing to insist you're right & its the 'truth' when I attempt to explain you have it all wrong." I mean, how could anyone possibly know what & how I think better than
I do? And then to pass it off as ME being deluded?
I think I understand what you mean; I know it as "scarecrow-argumentation": Instead of arguing with the person himself, one builds up a "scarecrow" with related, but not identical arguments which are easier to dismantle than the "real" arguments of the person. This often happens unconsciously, so it's usually not intended(in politics though, it sometimes is). It typically happens if someone in fact isn't interested in finding the truth about an issue, but rather just wants to force his opinion on others, so I'd say it should be more of a Je-thing.
Also, a problem with MBTI for me is that I know nearly no XNXP very good personally, so I have to guess a bit about NFPs (Friends are mostly SPs and NJs). I usually try to look for people who are as unconventional and theoretical as I am, but with a way stronger sense for moral and ethics. There are some in my classes that seem that way(and, additionally, act as said before), but I'm not completely sure.