Bamboozle
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- MBTI Type
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- Enneagram
- 3w2
- Instinctual Variant
- sx/so
Nines are supposed to have 'love' as their holy idea. Does that mean anything to any 9s? Do Holy Ideas help anyone in their understanding of their own behaviour, 9s and others? I'm particularly interested in getting stories/examples of how people think through these Enneagram concepts in their real life.
Someone thinks I'm possibly a 9w1 but I haven't a clue how to interpret this 'love' as holy idea thing.
ETA: Brief explanation of the Holy Idea from these articles:
So far as I understand it, the Enneatypes all have basic fears they perpetually run from and Holy Ideas they run to. And I noticed in some of the Enneagram threads that the things they were talking about, the things they were had trouble getting around and letting go of, could be interpreted to have to do with the 'Holy Idea'. Like Noon, they either had to perpetually strive for it or learn that they didn't have to try so hard (which is, I think, part of how the Enneatypes are supposed to learn to grow). I think the types have to learn to let go because, in the end, their Holy Ideas can't actually be realised except in an ideal world. To go to the stereotype, perfection can't actually be attained for the 1s but they feel compelled to try it anyway. 5s, stereotypically, strive for omniscience but simply can't get there. Thus, all the types are pushed and pulled in these different directions, first by fears then by this Holy Idea, and the cycle keeps going until the individual breaks it.
Someone thinks I'm possibly a 9w1 but I haven't a clue how to interpret this 'love' as holy idea thing.
ETA: Brief explanation of the Holy Idea from these articles:
Each Enneagram type has a “Holy Ideaâ€, which represents a particular characteristic of reality that they are particularly sensitive to. Each Enneagram type perceives one element of the universe above all others, and all type traits follow from this origin point.
So far as I understand it, the Enneatypes all have basic fears they perpetually run from and Holy Ideas they run to. And I noticed in some of the Enneagram threads that the things they were talking about, the things they were had trouble getting around and letting go of, could be interpreted to have to do with the 'Holy Idea'. Like Noon, they either had to perpetually strive for it or learn that they didn't have to try so hard (which is, I think, part of how the Enneatypes are supposed to learn to grow). I think the types have to learn to let go because, in the end, their Holy Ideas can't actually be realised except in an ideal world. To go to the stereotype, perfection can't actually be attained for the 1s but they feel compelled to try it anyway. 5s, stereotypically, strive for omniscience but simply can't get there. Thus, all the types are pushed and pulled in these different directions, first by fears then by this Holy Idea, and the cycle keeps going until the individual breaks it.
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