Further investigation is good. Pointing out the various holes in thisguy's scenario is unhelpful and pointless.
not as pointless as it might appear at first
throw in some lack of details and threat to personal safety where your conscience might be tickled and you have a scenario that where the you (the decision maker) demands an explanation to the point where you can make a choice and not have any misgivings/troubled-self
So:
(I'm not sure what system of value this scenario serves to highlight; in all likelihood, the prospect of inevitable death would overwhelm reasonable thought and simply cascade the individual into a state of hysterical self-preservation. Nothing is really clarified by our answers. Only that, as distant theory, we may/may not recognize the value of life.)
i've already thought of that
so any ultimate 'answers' given here don't really make a difference.
in the end only thing that will come from this thread is how the conclusions were reached and how long did they take to reach...moral type exposed in this thread will be in the minority and thus useless to relate to type...relating to temperament? now that, i think, could be done with a few assumptions...but perhaps not just yet
To clarify -
I'd be interested to hear a summary of your results, once they are satisfactory. Further, if you believe that a retooling of your scenario would have enhanced your comparison of response:type.
for sure.
yes, but i don't think retooling would have allowed for growth in terms of the scenario itself...it might have given some very definite answers but it wouldn't show how those answers were reached. i suppose, you can call the poll a red herring if you want.
basically, different temperaments value different things...
NT Rationale was the only place where i edited the if you gotta stay on the mountain, so does everyone else to if you are gonna die, so does everyone else. this was the only place that demanded complete facts before being comfortable with a choice.
so far, for most NTs only thing that has mattered is the value of the question. most are unable to even look past that. this could mean several things, including:
-apathy. not wanting to spend time on a question because of its perceived incompetency
-avoidance. avoid questioning of basic/moral/ethical principles, refuting the question till it matches a standard where it can be answered without rubbing against any inner values or personal rules
-something else that i cant point a finger towards...yet
i've never met an NT who has accepted a project at face value without question. leaving some 'holes' allows for development by me and the answerer. this also demonstrates Ni and Ti at work where people are trying to analyze within the situation but keep getting stuck at the hole. one too many holes and a flag goes up saying the question is stupid
also, halfway through the thread, the question turned into a riddle...the entire perspective of the audience changed as soon as people started thinking that the question was only stupid cuz it wasn't a question at all, it was a riddle...
http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/nf-idyllic/18260-do-you-cut-off-rope-nfs-only-please.html
http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/nt-rationale/18259-cut-rope-nt-only.html
http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/sp-arthouse/18261-cut-off-rope-sp-only.html
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...-cut-off-rope-sjs-only-please.html#post703303
this is just what i have initially gathered...need time to process....i think a lot more can be learned here but i AM at work and its prolly a good idea to get some of that done too
a thread in parallel: http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/philosophy-spirituality/18258-justice-self-preservation.html