I looked up ENFP 4w5 today and this is what I found. I am wondering if there are any other ENFP 4s and if any are having wing confusion, and what a ENFP 4w5 would look like from more perspectives.
Here are a few tidbits from blogs I found today:
ENFP 4s vs. ENFP 7s
If you run into a less extroverted ENFP, it’s likely that he is a 4 with a 5 wing (4w5), because they are drained from being out in the world and hide inside their own heads. An ENFP who is a 4 with a 3 wing (4w3), on the other hand, is energized by intense experiences, which is just like a 7.
That’s where the confusion with identification begins. 4w3s and 7s may both be very hyper, but there’s more emotional involvement from the 4. And a 4w5 may seem like a healthy 7 when he is able to quickly learn a great deal of knowledge, since a 7 integrates to a 5. When the 4w5 is unhealthy though, he resembles an absent-minded, spontaneous 7. One has to sort through the similarities and get to the differences.
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All in all, as an ENFP 4w5, I see you as an energetic, honestly outgoing person who has a big heart and interest in pretty much everything! You’re not afraid of your emotions and you take things as they come.
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being an ENFP 4w5 is a strange thing for me because it’s a combination of crazy extroverted intuition and introverted feeling that means i’m driven by my own morals+principles and see connections in almost everything, then always having this conflict of moodily wanting to be unique and having this weird thirst for knowledge and learning. it’s like being an NT and an NF at the same time i don’t know what that’s about. Any other ENFPs find their enneagram odd?
As an extremely introverted 4w5 sp/sx, I just don't see ENFP being in the PIT of the Enneagram. There is a difference between being out in the world and withdrawing versus withdrawal that pervades and epitomizes the day to day disposition of a 4w5. 4w5 can look into the macabre/surreal and not become unhinged at what is to be found there...only fascinated.
The second quote made me laugh, as introversion more or less attenuates "doing", "going" and "energy". Under the full-blown influence of Ni, an introverted Ni-dominant will feel like the world has become a time machine, where the subject alternately "wakes" and "sleeps" through days. On my week off from work, the world can just simply disappear and I wonder where all the time goes. I don't really want (too much) for companionship, but I could make a place for the ONE...hate cellphones and I'm really content with immersion in hobbies, interests and fitness. I even hit my dating sites, use my Derma-stamp and throw on my best short-sleeve blazer, should I decide to see a show...one of the reasons I don't quite fit 5w4, even if I can identify with both the wing and 5 core issues.
I am disconnected from both parents or at the very least ambivalent. Object relations are Frustration oriented. Emotions are reactive, in accordance with Duniho. "Smaller than the world" in Horney's Directional Theory. Have a tendency toward a Lamenting-Dissertation type talking style. Sado-masochism in accordance with the 4 sp/sx/so functional theory. I suffer, seethe, rinse and repeat until I have fully realized martyrdom. I will push-pull and VERY carefully guard my self-image once I feel even the slightest wiff of rejection or misunderstanding. People I idolize and like are a measuring stick...and I don't have to tell you how THAT goes!
4w5 will seek out intense experiences
mostly in the inner world not the outer one, which is different from 7's. A 4w5 under the intoxicating influence of avant-garde music, a new theory, or an especially outre movie will have all the mental stimulation needed to mollify and placate the senses. "Spontaneous" is not a moniker that can be attached to this type with but few exceptions,
and especially not under duress. Depression is more likely...and lots of sleep.
4w5 is one of the most internally convoluted types...I feel both delicate and strong at the same time...like a paradox. There is something about me that will always be "precious" and there is something about me that will always be "granite". I think perseverance is the biggest part of it but I don't think I will ever reconcile the two...they seem light years apart. "A Christmas Carol" is my all-time favorite story because of what I feel is the most powerful transformative device known to humans...redemption. We can take the not so great part about ourselves and transcend. Call it "self"creation.
Just a thought on some of the irregularities regarding similarites between 4w5 and 7. My best friend is likely a 7, so I might have some experience with the type.