burningranger
Ambience seeker
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- Aug 3, 2017
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Every now and again I come back to Jung. I never really read anything of his in-depth, because I like things fast and condensed... I prefer to put some video of his on, or read a few quotes and meditate on the overall implications of what he says.....that being said he's one of the few characters in history that I truly thoroughly respect and am fascinated by.
I've been searching online for what he has/had to say about the shadow. Most of the content written seems to be on what I would call the basic shadow...that is, just the sides of human expression one was prevented from expressing as a kid in scoiety...that go on to create most of our personal problems. Things we don't like seeing in ourselvses and condemn in others, but that work on a pretty run-of-the-mill neurosis level of our lives as humans. Anger, sexual repression, phobias.
But I have yet to find something of his, about the "deeper" side of the shadow. Like nightmares and their origin, past lives repressed aspects, and experiences of what we call demons or other such, less vanilla sort of phenomena. Now, I don't know what if anything he wrote on this, but I'm curious to know what was his stance and belief on the origin of many of these ideas. Anything that lies OUTSIDE of what has a rational explanation in modern psychology. I don't even know what is the consesus agreement on many of these ideas in modern psychology. From what I've experienced I think they are just ridiculed or always attributed to an unhealthy mind. I don't see modern psychology as being able to consider the existence of something as basic as possibility that we have many incarnations....so anything that would be ridiculed by modern science, would probably fall under that category as well for modern psychology.
Does anyone here know or could point me to a resource where he might have talked about these things? Did he believe in past lives? To what extent did he feel the individual was responsible not only for the vanilla side of the shadow...but also these darker manifestations? Did he have his own explanation to any of these things I described? Or would he not include these in the shadow or under the scope of his psychology?
I've been having some pretty weird nigthmares and have in the past seen some weird shit and had experiences in life which modern psychology doesn't seem to account for. Like out of body experiences etc I personally think many of the most complicated psychological "problems" are very very misunderstood. Like schyzophrenia for example. Because most people today have a very limited view of the world/consciousness and our psyche to be able to consider and accomodate other explanations than - "there is something wrong with this person's mind" medicate the bastard and invalidate his inner experience because I doesn't match what I know of the world.
If anyone have any answers regarding Jung's stance on any of this more "fringe" matters I'd love to hear them. Or if you could point me to a specific work of his, or of any of his disciples that would be cool too. Thanks
I've been searching online for what he has/had to say about the shadow. Most of the content written seems to be on what I would call the basic shadow...that is, just the sides of human expression one was prevented from expressing as a kid in scoiety...that go on to create most of our personal problems. Things we don't like seeing in ourselvses and condemn in others, but that work on a pretty run-of-the-mill neurosis level of our lives as humans. Anger, sexual repression, phobias.
But I have yet to find something of his, about the "deeper" side of the shadow. Like nightmares and their origin, past lives repressed aspects, and experiences of what we call demons or other such, less vanilla sort of phenomena. Now, I don't know what if anything he wrote on this, but I'm curious to know what was his stance and belief on the origin of many of these ideas. Anything that lies OUTSIDE of what has a rational explanation in modern psychology. I don't even know what is the consesus agreement on many of these ideas in modern psychology. From what I've experienced I think they are just ridiculed or always attributed to an unhealthy mind. I don't see modern psychology as being able to consider the existence of something as basic as possibility that we have many incarnations....so anything that would be ridiculed by modern science, would probably fall under that category as well for modern psychology.
Does anyone here know or could point me to a resource where he might have talked about these things? Did he believe in past lives? To what extent did he feel the individual was responsible not only for the vanilla side of the shadow...but also these darker manifestations? Did he have his own explanation to any of these things I described? Or would he not include these in the shadow or under the scope of his psychology?
I've been having some pretty weird nigthmares and have in the past seen some weird shit and had experiences in life which modern psychology doesn't seem to account for. Like out of body experiences etc I personally think many of the most complicated psychological "problems" are very very misunderstood. Like schyzophrenia for example. Because most people today have a very limited view of the world/consciousness and our psyche to be able to consider and accomodate other explanations than - "there is something wrong with this person's mind" medicate the bastard and invalidate his inner experience because I doesn't match what I know of the world.
If anyone have any answers regarding Jung's stance on any of this more "fringe" matters I'd love to hear them. Or if you could point me to a specific work of his, or of any of his disciples that would be cool too. Thanks