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Donald Trump's Myers-Briggs Type

Poki

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Meh, do burn down that strawman. Not going there since they're completely different frameworks.

Figured that would be your answer, thanks for validation. Your pretty spot on my framework :bye:
 

rav3n

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Figured that would be your answer, thanks for validation. Your pretty spot on my framework :bye:
This isn't a logical assertion since it relies on a strawman.

Analogous, I won because you said you have a few toes and I said that Trump has twenty toes which translates to my unproven belief that you have twenty toes and because you refuse to prove that you don't have twenty toes to me, you have twenty toes.
 

Poki

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This isn't a logical assertion since it relies on a strawman.

Analogous, I won because you said you have a few toes and I said that Trump has twenty toes which translates to my unproven belief that you have twenty toes and because you refuse to prove that you don't have twenty toes to me, you have twenty toes.

Lmao...nice try...i was actually saying "YOU" match my framework and that validates my framework more so. You win in your own head. You didnt convince me. Proved inconsistancies to for me between your beliefs and reality. I can go on forever...its the benefit of a solid understanding of the framework.

Anyway...i am out. Got alot of stuff to flake on P style.
 

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I dont see Fe on a consistant daily basis like a dom would have. I dont think he knows people worth a shit either. He follows Bannon and others on what "they" think.

I do see exactly what you say about your spoiler...i find that with both Te and Fe types. The need for an exact set of rules as a dominant way to live life. Its basically an inferior judgement from my experience. Its strictly goal based using an external ruleset as guide...the issue is rationalization...because they will use what someone else thinks or does as a group as validation as well. Fe will revolve more around emotions based, while Te is more thought logic based.

He is best and happiest in what i see as a Dom Te chatting, talking, making those things happen, but his unhealthy side pushes him in a direction that causes him to prioritize things that feed him in a negative way. I find it interesting how his face and demeanor just go numb and blank when he is chatting with someone with a dumb idea, he goes bored and half ass listening. That person has lost him. He has daddy issues with money, image, fame, etc. That has royally screwed him from finding what he really enjoys and wants. Ideas, socializing thoughts, making things happen based on these external interactions that are logic based, not emotional based. This is actuallh something a Dom Ne faces alot, they create meaning based on shallow perceptionand run with it and when done like Trump has in a disconnected from reality way it leads to a very conflicted view in which you fight reality to match image and not support reality.

His ability to feed the majority is due to similarities in thinking as he shoots himself in the foot because all he knows is projection of self. Thats his extremely extroverted side.

I do see him matching what you posted to a degree, but it seems like that is not fed from within him and function wise.

Well, we are in agreement he is what "daddy issues" looks like in a man. That's on the nose. Also, that Bannon tapped into something. In past interviews, he is much more relaxed and less combative and defensive. I agree he is not a healthy individual of any type. Lincoln was a depressive. Lots of leaders have these massive weaknesses along with great strengths. That's nothing new.

I think Trump enjoys winning. It's his drug. The more he wins, more $ he makes. the more his self-worth rises. (There's that never good enough for Daddy's love coming out...)

You know when he had the Comedy Central Roast the only thing that the comedians where not able to joke about was his net worth? Really.

I still see ESFJ. Fe with inferior Ti and I think Bannon tapped into that Ti.

Te has Fi and I just don't see him as having Fi. He's too emotive for it. Although, I could see his F/T divide be small.
 

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I haven't been paying much attention to him, but I'm pretty sure he's an immature ExTP:

-Undeveloped Si: one of the most prominent things about him is that he doesn't act like other politicians and is highly impulsive. Also, "alternative facts."

-Undeveloped Te: self-explanatory

-Probably Tet. Fe: usually thinks of himself first, but occasionally does things for others (and he also loves bragging)

-Tet. Fe means Aux. Ti
 

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I haven't been paying much attention to him, but I'm pretty sure he's an immature ExTP:

-Undeveloped Si: one of the most prominent things about him is that he doesn't act like other politicians and is highly impulsive. Also, "alternative facts."

-Undeveloped Te: self-explanatory

-Probably Tet. Fe: usually thinks of himself first, but occasionally does things for others (and he also loves bragging)

-Tet. Fe means Aux. Ti

You got one thing consistant...alot of undeveloped...lol
 

rav3n

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Lmao...nice try...i was actually saying "YOU" match my framework and that validates my framework more so. You win in your own head. You didnt convince me. Proved inconsistancies to for me between your beliefs and reality. I can go on forever...its the benefit of a solid understanding of the framework.

Anyway...i am out. Got alot of stuff to flake on P style.
Reread what I wrote since you've missed my point.
 

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Of course a T can have all three but there can't be an absence of all three in Fs.

Is that right. To wit:


I'd easily type him an F. His determination of who is innocent and guilty are not based on any law, but his own personal values.
Being obese makes someone guilty. Guilty of what exactly, I do not know.
 

rav3n

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Is that right. To wit:

I'd easily type him an F. His values jump out and punch you in the face.
Perhaps you can find a real life representative of an F that's completely lacking all three.
 

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So, no real life example. Got it.

I've met them by the 100's. Do you live in a hole? We're talking personal values here and how people make decisions.The scene from the film merely illustrated my point. As I once said to an ENFP who used to post here, an ENFP could be a serial killer or a civil rights leader. It depends on what they value.
 

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I've met them by the 100's. Do you live in a hole? We're talking personal values here and how people make decisions.The scene from the film merely illustrated my point. As I once said to an ENFP who used to post here, an ENFP could be a serial killer or a civil rights leader. It depends on what they value.
Clearly, serial killers have and evidence empathy and compassion.
 

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Clearly, serial killers have and evidence empathy and compassion.

And back to the starting point: "He has no values, compassion or empathy so T" is still a bunch of bunk. And with that, I am off to bed.
 

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Fe seeks consensus for decision-making. I'll paraphrase an Fe dom from this forum: "The more opinions I get from others, the more I trust I'm making an accurate decision." There was a thread where people posted an image of their dominant function. He posted an image of the UN. Get it?

They would seek to surround themselves with something trustworthy, familiar or "all the best and most serious people. . . . We want top of the line professionals." but when making actual policy decisions ignore all that.
Talk to your family members, who you put in cabinet and advisor positions...yeah. Totally couldn't be an Fe dom ;)
 

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And back to the starting point: "He has no values, compassion or empathy so T" is still a bunch of bunk. And with that, I am off to bed.
Asserting the same statement without any evidence of such, does not make your opinion anymore accurate.
 
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