OrangeAppled
Sugar Hiccup
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- MBTI Type
- INFP
- Enneagram
- 4w5
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/sx
I have a friend who tests and identifies as INFJ. I think it is a correct typing, except that she seems ENFPish at times. It reminds me of how I can relate a lot to ENFJs at times; although I struggle to see ENFJs and INFPs ever looking alike, I suppose it could happen if it was an enneagram type common to both or more common for the Jungian type they aren't.
So this person comes across as whimsical, spontaneous, social, goofy, etc. But I strongly get the feeling this is an image, and she certainly seems like a 4w3. This is similar to how ESFJs can be the "ENFPs of the people". There are free spirit qualities associated with ENFPs that are idealized for women, and xxFJ women tend to pick a socially admired image. This INFJ also practically has a fetish for ENTPs...
Some points to consider for this case:
- Admitted to being more aware of other people's emotions and adapting to them than her own emotions. Seems to signal Fe....or does it signal extroversion?
- Has hosting tendencies, seemingly motivated to build rapport and value with others. I don't see genuine ENFPs enjoying playing host or serving people in this way. Not saying xxFPs don't ever do that. My ESFP sister likes to plan and host parties, but she enjoys the creative aspects of putting it together (ie cooking and decorating) and the entertainment of the actual experience. She doesn't seem to want to wait on people, and the fun of it all seems to surpass any motive of creating rapport.
- Highly aware of social protocol and appropriateness, although like many NFJs, doesn't particularly like tradition or rules. But ENFPs can have a sense of dynamics at play and how to, er, influence them. This is where Fe and Ne can be hard to differentiate.
- Seems more bothered by differences in tastes than is typical of ENFPs. If someone doesn't like something she is enthusiastic about, she gets a bit sad. NFPs don't seem to feel any damper on their enthusiasm if someone doesn't share it.
- Very talkative. Always down for social stuff. Doesn't have the typical calm, composed enegry of a Ni-dom. Scattered. Again though, some of this seems like it could be deliberate, if you know what I mean.
- I just don't see Fi. I consider myself to be good at spotting Fi.
- More of a performer and influencer than a creator. I don't see personal creation as a drive. This seems Fe over Fi to me.
- Doesn't have the arrogant, condescending "I know what's best for people" vibe that INFJs often display :X. BUT those are usually male INFJs, IME.
- Taking Jung's pure types alone, I'd have trouble pegging her as Ni-dom. I'd go with Ne-dom. I don't see a focused, visionary style of intuition, but my experience also tells me Ni is often hidden (much as I don't immediately register as a Feeling type in person). She is definitely not a misunderstood crank. But the influence of Fe could make all the difference here. Is this Ni-Fe mimicking Ne because of a social advantage and focus on a larger, long-term goal?
This is a case study of sorts. Personal experiences of confusion with these types is encouraged!
So this person comes across as whimsical, spontaneous, social, goofy, etc. But I strongly get the feeling this is an image, and she certainly seems like a 4w3. This is similar to how ESFJs can be the "ENFPs of the people". There are free spirit qualities associated with ENFPs that are idealized for women, and xxFJ women tend to pick a socially admired image. This INFJ also practically has a fetish for ENTPs...
Some points to consider for this case:
- Admitted to being more aware of other people's emotions and adapting to them than her own emotions. Seems to signal Fe....or does it signal extroversion?
- Has hosting tendencies, seemingly motivated to build rapport and value with others. I don't see genuine ENFPs enjoying playing host or serving people in this way. Not saying xxFPs don't ever do that. My ESFP sister likes to plan and host parties, but she enjoys the creative aspects of putting it together (ie cooking and decorating) and the entertainment of the actual experience. She doesn't seem to want to wait on people, and the fun of it all seems to surpass any motive of creating rapport.
- Highly aware of social protocol and appropriateness, although like many NFJs, doesn't particularly like tradition or rules. But ENFPs can have a sense of dynamics at play and how to, er, influence them. This is where Fe and Ne can be hard to differentiate.
- Seems more bothered by differences in tastes than is typical of ENFPs. If someone doesn't like something she is enthusiastic about, she gets a bit sad. NFPs don't seem to feel any damper on their enthusiasm if someone doesn't share it.
- Very talkative. Always down for social stuff. Doesn't have the typical calm, composed enegry of a Ni-dom. Scattered. Again though, some of this seems like it could be deliberate, if you know what I mean.
- I just don't see Fi. I consider myself to be good at spotting Fi.
- More of a performer and influencer than a creator. I don't see personal creation as a drive. This seems Fe over Fi to me.
- Doesn't have the arrogant, condescending "I know what's best for people" vibe that INFJs often display :X. BUT those are usually male INFJs, IME.
- Taking Jung's pure types alone, I'd have trouble pegging her as Ni-dom. I'd go with Ne-dom. I don't see a focused, visionary style of intuition, but my experience also tells me Ni is often hidden (much as I don't immediately register as a Feeling type in person). She is definitely not a misunderstood crank. But the influence of Fe could make all the difference here. Is this Ni-Fe mimicking Ne because of a social advantage and focus on a larger, long-term goal?
This is a case study of sorts. Personal experiences of confusion with these types is encouraged!