Z Buck McFate
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I appreciate all FJ input thus far! Thanks folks.
I am very curious to hear how much Fe doms relate to it (hence, thread).
But even if all resident Fe doms agree on it, I'm wondering if it's possible to come up with descriptions so accurate that even Fe aux would feel like it applies over the Fi description? I'm not looking for a description that would resonate in Fe aux so deeply that it could easily be their dominant function. I'm just looking for something that resonates over the alternative presented, however slightly? It seems like it should be possible to fine tune the description enough where INFJs actually would relate to it more than they relate to the description of a function that supposedly isn't even in their 'stack'.
I started this thread because I stumbled on another one in which it was suggested a person might be able to figure out if they're INFJ or INTJ based on looking at descriptions for Fe/Fi/Te/Ti- and with the Fe/Fi descriptions being what they typically currently are, I don't think it is. (Key word: think. I started this thread in hopes of getting a handle on others' positions on this.)
I can understand how this^ might trigger an Je dom to be all "GODDAMNIT, THE Fe DESCRIPTION WORKS FOR Fe DOMS SO LEAVE THINGS ALONE." To which I would like to (good-naturedly) counter "GODDAMNIT, I'M FINE TUNING, STOP PAYING ATTENTION NOW IF IT'S PISSING YOU OFF (AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING PAID ATTENTION ENOUGH TO CONTRIBUTE A COUPLE CENTS)." (eta: I'm not saying this is what I'm hearing in your post, but I can feel it waiting around the corner getting ready to pounce on me...)
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All of this being said, I really hate feeling like I'm opening up another six pack of Ti "Nope!" on [MENTION=8936]highlander[/MENTION]. (I had no idea he wrote that Fe characteristic list.) Lord knows there's little that makes me wish there was some kind of Madeline Kahn "flames..." emoticon* here than having an avalanche of Fi reciprocate fall on me because of something I said- having the content ignored because it wasn't presented the 'right' way. It isn't that I don't think there's value in that Fi contribution, but it gets exhausting to consistently have a big chunk of the content of what I'm saying dismissed because it isn't wrapped in (what feels to me, when I'm frustrated, like) enough semantic bubble wrap and super-careful fluffy decorum.
[MENTION=6336]AphroditeGoneAwry[/MENTION] repped a good idea- maybe I should have asked how FJs would list Fe characteristics, or how they'd phrase that list differently, in addition to simply asking what they might find wrong with it.
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Based off the above, I think this is very accurate for how Fe works. Fe doms will likely relate to this strongly. Fe-aux would be a little more challening because it will be partially related to, and at times feel a bit difficult or wrong. As would be for any aux function.
I am very curious to hear how much Fe doms relate to it (hence, thread).
But even if all resident Fe doms agree on it, I'm wondering if it's possible to come up with descriptions so accurate that even Fe aux would feel like it applies over the Fi description? I'm not looking for a description that would resonate in Fe aux so deeply that it could easily be their dominant function. I'm just looking for something that resonates over the alternative presented, however slightly? It seems like it should be possible to fine tune the description enough where INFJs actually would relate to it more than they relate to the description of a function that supposedly isn't even in their 'stack'.
I started this thread because I stumbled on another one in which it was suggested a person might be able to figure out if they're INFJ or INTJ based on looking at descriptions for Fe/Fi/Te/Ti- and with the Fe/Fi descriptions being what they typically currently are, I don't think it is. (Key word: think. I started this thread in hopes of getting a handle on others' positions on this.)
I can understand how this^ might trigger an Je dom to be all "GODDAMNIT, THE Fe DESCRIPTION WORKS FOR Fe DOMS SO LEAVE THINGS ALONE." To which I would like to (good-naturedly) counter "GODDAMNIT, I'M FINE TUNING, STOP PAYING ATTENTION NOW IF IT'S PISSING YOU OFF (AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING PAID ATTENTION ENOUGH TO CONTRIBUTE A COUPLE CENTS)." (eta: I'm not saying this is what I'm hearing in your post, but I can feel it waiting around the corner getting ready to pounce on me...)
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All of this being said, I really hate feeling like I'm opening up another six pack of Ti "Nope!" on [MENTION=8936]highlander[/MENTION]. (I had no idea he wrote that Fe characteristic list.) Lord knows there's little that makes me wish there was some kind of Madeline Kahn "flames..." emoticon* here than having an avalanche of Fi reciprocate fall on me because of something I said- having the content ignored because it wasn't presented the 'right' way. It isn't that I don't think there's value in that Fi contribution, but it gets exhausting to consistently have a big chunk of the content of what I'm saying dismissed because it isn't wrapped in (what feels to me, when I'm frustrated, like) enough semantic bubble wrap and super-careful fluffy decorum.
[MENTION=6336]AphroditeGoneAwry[/MENTION] repped a good idea- maybe I should have asked how FJs would list Fe characteristics, or how they'd phrase that list differently, in addition to simply asking what they might find wrong with it.
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