No one so far has discussed the "sensual" part of the question...
YouTube - Bjork - Possibly Maybe
Mon petit vulcan
You're eruptions and disasters
I keep calm
Admiring your lava
I keep calm
Since we broke up
I'm using lipstick again
I'll suck my tongue
In remembrance of you
Yeah...I would never kill myself over another person.
I thought most NFs were very confident, not just ENFx.
So INFx's have low self-esteem? I did not know that.
...have a tendency to become severely depressed when their ideals go unfulfilled. It is amazing how quickly the INFJ's rich inner imagination can turn to discouragement when others don't readily support their cause. That which was inspiration now spirals ever inward toward self-punishment and deep-seated feelings of failure. Guilt becomes overriding and depression abounds. In such cases the INFJ tends to distort reality and to bury his or herself in a barrage of despair ending in, "No one gives a damn. How foolish of me to have thought otherwise."
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This is from an INFJ profile, obviously, but I'd imagine any idealist could fall into a similar trap.
Sarah McLachlan was also a good one.
Really? Under no circumstances? I often wonder how Eric Clapton went on with life after his 4 year old son fell to his death out a window.
That's a loss that I don't know if I'd ever be able to cope with
Same issue with sensuality. I would suspect that an individual's sex drive is influence by their physiology and environmental conditioning as much as anything. The different cognitive processing styles will express that sensuality in different ways. I can see some possible validity in the idea that an iNtuitive might express their sensuality in a more abstract form like writing, but that would not always be the case. I have noticed an ability for NFs to connect sexuality to more abstract and deeply internal processes, which is different that experiencing it as an external, sensory experience primarily. If a person is imaginative by nature, then that will likely be part of their sensuality as well. But then again, there could be some NFs that use sexuality as a way to simplify and escape the complexity of their inner emotional worlds.
I don't know, I have gotten a real energy rush in the past out of being the devil's advocate on a position. I think the INFJ profile is describing a reaction of a Fe idealist, which is part of the problem in lumping all NF together as unified whole.
Not that I argue with fallacies becoming a problem with lumping together, that's why I mentioned that it was from an INFJ only profile, but just for further thought:
Wouldn't playing devil's advocate *be* the ideal then? And people playing into it be support for it? When you go to do something and it works, of course that's going to be an energy rush.
I'm trying to remember if i ever thought that way. I don't now. My reaction to such a scenario is to ask why people don't give a damn? What is it about my ideal vs. theirs that doesn't line up? I would find the discrepancy intriguing and go on to analyze it. Actually, that is pretty much the predicament i find myself in, only it hits rather close to home because it affects my livelihood and income. What I have done is to analyze any discrepancy between myself and the external world, and then let go of those factors that are outside my control. This allows self to view values that fall outside our own with an understanding of why they evolved to exist in these other individuals and societies and what functions these alternate values serve. Nothing occurs in a vacuum. When we dismiss something instead of trying to understand it, we pass by an opportunity to learn and perhaps become enlightened.From "Portrait of an INFJ"
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...have a tendency to become severely depressed when their ideals go unfulfilled. It is amazing how quickly the INFJ's rich inner imagination can turn to discouragement when others don't readily support their cause. That which was inspiration now spirals ever inward toward self-punishment and deep-seated feelings of failure. Guilt becomes overriding and depression abounds. In such cases the INFJ tends to distort reality and to bury his or herself in a barrage of despair ending in, "No one gives a damn. How foolish of me to have thought otherwise."
This is from an INFJ profile, obviously, but I'd imagine any idealist could fall into a similar trap.
EDIT: expanding on what Pink said. XD
Isn't self-esteem more of a nurture than nature issue? If you are hardwired at an early age to think badly of yourself, or if you experience failures in life, isn't that what causes poor self image? The presence/absence of confidence seems environmentally caused, and the different types show different ways that is processed.
Same issue with sensuality. I would suspect that an individual's sex drive is influence by their physiology and environmental conditioning as much as anything. The different cognitive processing styles will express that sensuality in different ways. I can see some possible validity in the idea that an iNtuitive might express their sensuality in a more abstract form like writing, but that would not always be the case. I have noticed an ability for NFs to connect sexuality to more abstract and deeply internal processes, which is different that experiencing it as an external, sensory experience primarily. If a person is imaginative by nature, then that will likely be part of their sensuality as well. But then again, there could be some NFs that use sexuality as a way to simplify and escape the complexity of their inner emotional worlds.
heart said:I think the INFJ profile is describing a reaction of a Fe idealist...
I feel powerless to communicate my experience of self into the world in an effective way. Without reception of self in the external world I feel that my existence has no purpose or maybe even reality. The pain of not being received in the world along with the desperation of my feeling of powerlessness over being able to communicate myself in a way that others can understand or seem to care about or value is so great that sometimes I feel a panicked anxiousness to validate my perceived non-existence in the world by ending my physical presence.