INTPness
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I think you're being overly sensitive on behalf of ENTPs which is causing you to stray into logical fallacy. Of course, INTPs have their own insecurities, but because we care less/need less from the environment, we don't have the same tension between goals that I was trying to elucidate. That's not an insult, it's just an observation/theory which I find interesting, because on the surface they seem so full of self-confidence.
This isn't a subject that makes me sensitive at all. I have no reason to be sensitive about it. I've just known a good amount of ENTP's and, sure, they have insecurities like anyone else in life. But, it's not like they're even close to being "the most insecure people I know". They're not at all like that. I have no agenda to support the ENTP side, I just know some really cool ones who have accomplished some really interesting things and who are really interesting people, despite whatever insecurities they may have. I've learned a lot from them and they've learned a lot from me. That's just my honest, unbiased observation of the ones I've known. And I don't see them as being "more insecure than me" or other INTP's I've known. Just different types of insecurities.
And I'm not sure what statement I may have made that was "logical fallacy", I was just observing that the argument between you and her seemed to have a hint of "I'm going to win this argument if it's the last thing I do". A chess match of luring someone deeper into an argument and then when they offer a counter-argument, then all of the sudden there are "rolly eyes" and "I don't care what you think anyways, your opinions are useless to me". I guess I shouldn't have commented at all. Maybe you guys want to go a couple more rounds with each other. But, it didn't come off as one person "pwning" the other by some flawless execution of logic. It just seemed like a back and forth "you're it!". "No you're it!"
digest's weak trolling of me in this thread and attempt to reframe everything I say as an attack is purely a reflection of her own transparent agenda. Don't fall for it.
I'll be on guard.
I actually came into this thread to defend ENTPs against some of noz's accusations.
Yeah, me too. Those ENTP's are good folks.
All this discussion demonstrates is that INTPs spend more time thinking about ENTPs than they do us.
I don't give them any "extra" thought during the course of a day. I just know they're cool peeps, even with their insecurities.
I don't know, I'll just try to bow out of the food fight as gracefully as possible. I was just confused how everything went from "what do ENTP's think of us" (cuz I really wanted to hear what they had to say) to -----------------------------> ENTP's appear really confident on the surface but they're extremely insecure on the inside. How did it even get there? I mean, everyone has insecurities to some extent. Some cover it up with "toughness" and a "you can't touch me attitude" and others actually show their insecurity - it manifests itself in a more obvious way. I just wasn't sure what ENTP insecurities had to do with "what they think of INTP's".