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    But seriously, an explanation? That's where the definition of it tends to get messed up into something simply like randomness, creativity, or tangents, which then gets confused and misinterpreted as mere universal high-functioning thought-process. If you want to understand what dominant Ne is, you need to either read Jung, or Lewis Carroll If you really need an explanation, Nardi is probably as close as you're going to get with that, and his studies that are starting to explain dominant Ne as a result of an inclination to use "christmas-tree" transcontextualism to think about nearly everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seradane View Post
    I always found this video, of Robin Williams explaining (demonstrating?) how his brain works as a particularly fascinating insight into (a frankly, superhyperactive) Ne. (Particularly about 3:00 onwards.) He takes a single object, and you can just about see how his mind goes, "Ooh, well this could be like this. Or this. Or what about this!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL2Iv-kbc68
    This is fantastic! Haha
    He is sooo cool...
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    ahahahah! what's there to explain? you just have your brain build like a web, anything you see or someone says will bring up a connection, will bring up another, like a web.....everything is connected, you see the big picture, the puzzle. it's like a wikipedia article, of sorts. this is why i love mbti, i find it fascinating that someone can find intriguing something that for me is so boring/obvious?

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    the way i understand it is that it is a kind of story intelligence. i like Ne doms, and 7s in particular, because they can create space in all processes. it's calming, and also kind of beautiful. they are the masters of space, of relations between places (including the virtual ones, the transitory ones that only emerge in transit between the past and the future). they aggregate event sequences in space--rather than seeing things as definitive things, they see them as shapes with latent potentials, kind of fuzzy event possibilities--and they can flow with aspects of those potentials and search for story lines given those, rather than the domain-specific things, that will in turn connect the space around them together in novel ways. kind of whitmanesque, just kind of subsuming the ideas of material bodies in motion, analogous ways of experiencing, noticing changes and wrinkles that appear in the experience and using those to create new areas of experience, zooming into a new field of awareness. i imagine that the "big picture" that Ne doms talk about is the sense of the process that is unfolding that is coming into focus, the strands of relativity and movement in different time scales all co-existing (albeit with the limits of short-term memory imposing constraints on attention, as we see when we talk to you!). the feeling of getting out ahead of time and having a kind of visual simulation for how it will happen as the storylines inform each other in advance, in the ongoing awareness that either identifies with the forces that push against each other (the kind of materiality of the Ti vectors creating the particular shapes) or the experience of the internal worlds, the qualitative lifeworlds that go beyond the skin that one should respect and grant their right to define with their own rules (Fi).

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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    i imagine that the "big picture" that Ne doms talk about is the sense of the process that is unfolding that is coming into focus, the strands of relativity and movement in different time scales all co-existing (albeit with the limits of short-term memory imposing constraints on attention, as we see when we talk to you!).
    It's got to do with our headspace as you have so eloquently described it... we have everything going on in there at once... so to jump from topic to topic... is to stay on topic. Nothing is out of bounds because everything is connected. You're not leaving an idea behind, you're just looking at it through a different lens, from a different place. I think most of my mind operates out of the bounds of time. I don't really have time awareness unless I'm explicitly working on a project and am probably engaging a good amount of Te. Otherwise everything runs together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    It's got to do with our headspace as you have so eloquently described it... we have everything going on in there at once... so to jump from topic to topic... is to stay on topic. Nothing is out of bounds because everything is connected. You're not leaving an idea behind, you're just looking at it through a different lens, from a different place. I think most of my mind operates out of the bounds of time. I don't really have time awareness unless I'm explicitly working on a project and am probably engaging a good amount of Te. Otherwise everything runs together.
    i follow what you're saying. the shift in place is really valuable to me, and why connecting with Ne doms is so untangling. in general, it's a bit easier for me to see the process with my entp 7w6 friends because of the judgment transparency, but most of the time, when Ne doms preface, "this is maybe a change of subject, but i swear it's kind of connected," within the first two sentences i usually see and smile and am happy with the way they are refiguring and revoicing the melody (with that right-brained prosody). so i don't actually find Ne doms to jump around too much at all. on the contrary, it feels like home to me. for Ni doms, to be in a space, to be engaged with someone who is a master of space, helps us feel part of the flow, the currents that meet and move forward, outward from the moment.

    similarly, i think, that sense of FLOW is really the biggest thing that marks self-mastery for Ne doms, a way of being with time, movement, and change of perspective in a continuous stream of possibility. finding a balance, especially for head types, of the explosion of enthusiasm and mental sprinting, which is really endearing and also intoxicating, and being able to stay with the process enough, stay close enough to the ground and go slowly enough (distancewise) to really be present, is the kind of game that takes practice. the prize is an ability to accept and stay with experience and create space for appreciation and enjoyment that optimizes, in a non-invasive way, the processes going on everywhere around and through it, in a way that balances freedom (possibilities!) and responsibility (actuality/consequences/inheritance of the past, a way of honoring that and trying to do your best, your part, regardless).

    as for keeping time, i've been thinking about this a lot, because i have so much work to do in this area. socionics claims T has to do with materiality, whereas N has to do with time. i think creating definition/definiteness and measurable distances is necessary for keeping time straight (literally linear). it's like when you're a kid and you sketch in one continuous line or you shade in with short strokes. F might be better at feeling the dilation of time--the confluence, center, and gravity of it--rather than controlling it and taking control of the moment in order to be as efficiently constructive as possible. T brings a kind of balanced creativity, defined by specific, concrete landmarks, actually measuring the force and distance and tipping point rather than operating as much from personal mood/whimsy, a kind of imprecise holistic impressionistic time. rather than one that is exclusively being caught by the endless songs of sirens, attracted to everything, jumping from solar system to solar system without a coherent self, without anchors. T then helps offer parameters to author a self within our own defined spaces, our own boundaries we have constructed to a materially constraining degree, that helps us more precisely know and measure where we are at within our own game/story, our own project/goal structure.

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